What does the expression "dankness" mean to you?

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  1. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    While I usually think of resinous, piney, weed-smelling beers, I also kinda think that beers that have an overripe, to the point of almost rotten, pineapple or mango aromas are dank as well.
     
  2. thebeers

    thebeers Grand Pooh-Bah (5,837) Sep 10, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    I had an Other Half Dank last month, and was annoyed there was no dankness to it.

    “Dank” means marijuana-like, and I wonder if legalized weed has changed what people expect from that description these days.

    To me it means strong pine resin, skunkweed, forest floor, gym socks and maybe some jungle rot. Today, I see marijuana strains marketed as rooty tooty fresh n fruity or whatever and can’t help but think it may smell different from what weed used to smell like.
     
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  3. 57md

    57md Grand Pooh-Bah (3,033) Aug 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    When I use dank, it means weed-like.
     
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  4. bcm119

    bcm119 Savant (1,195) Feb 17, 2001 California
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    Dank was co-opted from weed culture, and to me it describes a certain aromatic quality of some weed strains, but not all. I think it's a misconception that it simply means weed-like in aroma. The aroma of weed varies widely, and dank describes a certain past-ripe fruity, earthy funk smell common in some modern strains. It's not simply citrus/pine, it's deeper and funkier than that. And breweries apply the term far too often to beers that aren't dank at all, to the point where the word has basically lost all meaning.
     
  5. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    I like this. It confirms my worldview. Modern strains might be a bit of a stretch. I quit smoking for the most part 20 years ago, but when I did "dank buds" was used to describe particularly resinous weed- piney, not necessarily needles, more like sap, some citrus/fruity, a certain earthiness that was like tropical or stone fruit that was overly ripe, just on the edge of rotting. An apple that is just about to rot has a much different aroma than a peach.
     
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  6. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Exactly the impression I'm starting to get as well.
     
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  7. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    dank
    adjective
    (especially of buildings and air) wet, cold, and unpleasant:
    a dank, dark cellar -- In the cathedral vaults the air was dank and stale.

    dank
    adjective (GOOD)
    slang
    of good quality:
    The food was dank but the service was terrible.
    slang
    very attractive:
    I like your sneakers - they're dank.

    So, I think the slang meaning got a little off track somewhere.
    Cool, boss, rad, gnarly, sick... dank.
     
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  8. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    As stated above, dank as good came from stoner culture describing what was particularly good weed 20-30 years ago, when good nuggs tended to exhibit the negative qualities of the adjective dank.

    Nobody uses "kind" to describe something as being of high quality these days, which was another description used for good marijuana 25+ years ago. Shit, "hydro" or "indoor" don't even mean anything anymore, it's almost assumed if you're not on the west coast.
     
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  9. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Dank smells like a very dark cellar with camel crickets the size of quarters. It's like the New Zealand description of ripe Sauvignon Blanc as cat pee on a leaf. Kinda like just up to a point.
     
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  10. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    I've never had it before but people who have tried SweetWater's 420 Strain G13 IPA swear by it as a prime example of the "dankness" I think you are describing. I'm with @JackHorzempa and @steveh, that's not something I like nor look for in a beer.
     
  11. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    I think the answer is ... it depends.

    Do you mean pot? Or musty and wet? Based on the colloquial usage of the term associated with marijuana, I use it exclusively in the former context when talking about beer.

    WC IPAs, in my experience, are more resinous than dank - and I realize that's a bit of hair-splitting at times. Bitter, piney hops have never really come across all that pot-like to me.

    But varietals like Ekuanot, Mosaic, Citra (at times, depending on freshness), Nelson Sauvin, et al? No, those taste like a mouthful of pot pot smoke (and like @JackHorzempa I don't enjoy that expression). That's what I think of when I think of dankness in beer.

    To me, that's more varietal dependent than style dependent. And to your own experience ... the vast majority of beers that proudly extol their "dankness" on the label do, indeed, taste very much like marijuana smoke to me. I haven't noticed a problem there (other than my inability to consume them).
     
  12. defunksta

    defunksta Grand Pooh-Bah (4,164) Jan 18, 2019 Wisconsin
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    This is exactly how I think about it. I would add that in addition to marijauna, it sometimes has a herbal onion note. I feel strongly there is a difference between a bitter WCIPA, and "dank". I love a good WCIPA, but avoid anything described as "dank".
     
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  13. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    It's gratifying to read posts like this. I always just assumed that "dankness" would be a polarizing attribute... some people like it and some really hate it.

    All the more reason why it strikes me as kind of dumb to describe your beer as dank or to include the word in the name, when it's not the least bit dank. People who hate dank beers aren't going to buy it, and those who do appreciate dankness in their beer are likely to be pissed off when they buy a beer expecting a certain level of dankness and there's none!
     
  14. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Dank.

    Have you seen the movie Silence of the Lambs? Did you see Buffalo Bill's basement? The smell of that basement is dank. Unpleasantly moist or humid. Damp and often chilly.

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/dank
     
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  15. LAFreeway

    LAFreeway Zealot (669) Aug 2, 2023 California

    I believe the term “dank” was popularized by Snoop Dogg in about 93 or 94. It has nothing to do with the dictionary definition of dank, I think the rappers picked it because it rhymed with stank.

    I haven’t heard the other terms for weed on “Doggystyle” like Indo or chronic in decades, it seems like dank is the only term still in use from those years

    The dank marijuana/ hop odor is reminiscent of road kill skunk or cat piss. I’ve never really smelled a skunky hop outside of the clear or green bottle skunking, but I think John Kimmich said that he seeks out the cat piss smell when making hop selections.
     
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  16. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    That is the first beer I think about. Not something I seek out
     
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  17. Mortal_Wombat

    Mortal_Wombat Pundit (990) Jul 7, 2020 Texas
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    I definitely don't seek it out but if I get the same notes in an ale from shoving my face into a bag of Skunk OG bud, I'd consider it dank. I've had very beers I'd actually qualify with the label. The only one that jumps to mind that was good is the Alchemist's Kiss of Dank.
     
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  18. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    To me the expression darkness means that prickly weedy scent and taste that you get from hops like Simcoe and some Australian and new Zealand hops whose names escape me. Dank like pseudo sue, or dank like sculpin. Grapefruit and dank go together but mango does not go with dank. I was reading other threads and I think it was tacitly decided that muddy look and turbid mouthfeel associated with neipas was clashing with darnkness in flavor . I'm a woman and I read these thongs into your posts. There are west coast ipas that were not dank like union jack and there were neipas that were not overcome by a too mushy mouthfeel. The best neipa I ever had was called giant panda and was cloudy or hazy bu t not murky or too soft feeling. Dank is a flavor that's catty but not cat pissy. Dank is like grassy but not like c hops grass. More like that weed you see in your garden that looks like lettuce with pickers on it.

    Aside- the only neipa that struck me as unusually good was resurgence brewing anniversary beer? It's a question mark because I'm "hazy" on the facts.
     
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  19. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    One of the things I was lamenting in my OP, was the number of beers (usually IPAs) where the word dank is included in the name or the brewer lists dankness as one of the primary attributes.... but then there's virtually no dank characteristic in the actual beer. Have you seen very many examples of this?

    Your interpretation of dankness is pretty similar to mine, and it's a characteristic I tend to appreciate. So I find it annoying when I purposely order a beer I'm expecting to be dank, but then that characteristic is virtually undetectable in the beer itself. It's made me wonder if perhaps the brewer(s) has a different idea of what the expression is supposed to mean. (as opposed to just poor marketing).
     
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  20. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    I can't remember the last time I saw a brewer use the word dank if ever I have. It is disappointing to be told something is like this and then it isn’t.
     
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