Steam Entropy Lager/Ale

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  1. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    This will be first Cali Common for me (or any beer FTM) with Northern Brewer hops.

    10# Pale Malt
    .5# Aromatic
    .5# Carapils
    .25 # Midnight Wheat
    1 oz Northern Brewer FWH 60
    1 oz NB @ 10 min
    1 oz NB @ KO
    WL 2112 1.5 l starter...second batch US-05
    mash 148, ferment @ 62
    OGE: 1.054
    IBU: 44
    SRM: 11.7
     
  2. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I don't know anything about cali commons, but I think you'll be pleased with NB hops. Everything I've made with them, I liked it.
     
  3. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    Agreed about Northern Brewers. I think typically Commons contain some Crystal in there too, but I don't see any problems here...

    What kind of fermentation schedule are you planning? I like to give this style a bit longer to condition, then cold crash the whole thing to clear it up a bit.
     
  4. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    NB is required for traditional steam beers.
     
  5. brewsader

    brewsader Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2012 New York

    i'd mash it a bit higher but otherwise it looks pretty good. i'm doing a cal common next and i'm planning on mashing it around 154.
     
  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Traditional in the sense of recent beer awareness. Steam beer was brewed from the California Gold Rush, times mid 19th century. NB hops were developed in the UK in the 1930s IIRC. Traditional from the time of Anchor and Fritz Maytag for sure.
     
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  7. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Good point, didn't even think about time lines... were they originally brewed with Cluster in the U.S.?
     
  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Probably. Cluster was what was raised in CA for years, but I would have to look up when hops were first grown there. During the Gold Rush the hops may have been shipped in like everything else.
     
  9. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    The Flint family supposed imported the first hop roots (from Vermont) into California winter '55-'56. First grown by Wilson Flint, his brother Daniel soon established a long-lived hop ranch and wrote an early history, The Hop Industry in California for the state Ag society. According to Tinged with Gold (which happened to be sitting here :wink:) "Throughout the 1860's California brewers continued to rely on eastern hops..."

    Supposedly the reputation of California hops grew from awards giving at 1867's Paris Exposition to the porter and ale of NYC's Smith Bros. brewery, brewed with "Croton Water, with California hops and barley."
     
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  10. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I agree that crystal is usually included in california commons recipe that I see, presumably because they are trying to imitate Anchor. I'd probably put half a pound of C40 in this, but it could be very good without any, too..
     
  11. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Your usual informative post, from a book that I am not familiar with.

    If you have never read http://www.amazon.com/Atlas-English...&qid=1357567875&sr=1-1&keywords=the+hop+atlas it is a comprehensive history. We checked out the copy from MSUs library a few years ago. At $150 or so to purchase, finding it from the state library system was the way to go for a read.
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have homebrewed a number of solely Northern Brewer hopped California Common beers. I enjoyed them but found them to be a bit one dimensional.

    I have always used crystal malt in my California Common beers: 1 lb. of 40L Crystal.

    Below is something I posted in a previous thread:

    I have used Cascade many times in making California Common beers to complement the classic hop for this style of Northern Brewer:

    · 2 ounces Northern Brewer for 60 minutes of boil
    · ½ ounce Northern Brewer & ½ ounce Cascade for 15 minutes of boil
    · ½ ounce of Cascade at end of boil

    I always thought the above hopping schedule made a tasty California Common.

    I hope to be able to obtain California Cluster (Ivanhoe) hops someday to make a California Common beer. That hop sounds like it would be perfect for a California Common from a taste and historical perspective:

    “California Ivanhoe Organic Whole Hops

    8% AAU. 4.6% Beta. The original California Cluster variety has been rejuvenated for the first time in more than a half century. Similar in profile to a Cascade with a moderate alpha in the 8% range, it has a nice aroma with mellow hints of citrus and pine and the strong floral/herbal notes typical of English aroma hops. The exact origins of the Ivanhoe hop are unknown but the original California Cluster hop parent was a cross between English and American varieties. Great for American style ales, California Common, stouts, and IPA's. Try in recipes that call for: Galena, Cluster, Northern Brewer.”


    Cheers!
     
  13. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    "I have always used crystal malt in my California Common beers"
    What is Carapils?...chopped liver? : )

    I usually do use a darker crystal in Cali Commons, but this time I think I will just go with the Carapils and maybe mash a little higher...and maybe even ferment a little higher than normal. Cheers
     
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