The Averagely Perfect American IPA Project - Poll #1 - FG

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What should the target Final Gravity be?

Poll closed Jan 10, 2013.

  1. 1.010 (with OG of 1.060)

    32 vote(s)
    28.3%

  2. 1.011 (with OG of 1.061)

    12 vote(s)
    10.6%

  3. 1.012 (with OG of 1.062)

    50 vote(s)
    44.2%

  4. 1.013 (with OG of 1.063)

    4 vote(s)
    3.5%

  5. 1.014 (with OG of 1.064)

    7 vote(s)
    6.2%

  6. 1.015 (with OG of 1.065)

    3 vote(s)
    2.7%

  7. 1.016 (with OG of 1.066)

    2 vote(s)
    1.8%

  8. 1.017 (with OG of 1.067)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  9. 1.018 (with OG of 1.068)

    3 vote(s)
    2.7%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Question #2. What should the target Final Gravity be?

    With 6.5% ABV, what FG do we want to target? I suggest thinking about residual sweetness, maltiness, body, and mouthfeel, even though there is no (group) grain bill context yet, though there may be one in your head. Here is the formula I used to determine the potential FG/OG pairs.

    ABV = 131.25 x (OG - FG)

    I realize there are other formulae that would give slightly different answers. This is the one I used. But the bottom line is there are a finite number of pairs (at three decimal place rounding) that can result in a 6.5% beer and remain within the style guidelines. These are those.
    This poll will only be open for 48 hours. Based on the first one, almost all the votes happened in that timeframe.

    If you don't know what this thread is about, please see this thread...
    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please Beer Mail me. Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand (not about how you would have asked the question differently). Thanks!

    The Averagely Perfect American IPA Recipe so far...
    Target ABV: 6.5%
     
    #1 VikeMan, Jan 8, 2013
  2. good_gracious

    good_gracious Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2012 Maryland

    Went with 11--gotta have my ipa's dry baby!
     
    #2 good_gracious, Jan 8, 2013
  3. good_gracious

    good_gracious Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2012 Maryland

    By the way vikeman, are you able to vote since you're the originator? Curious what your opinions are in these polls
     
    #3 good_gracious, Jan 8, 2013
  4. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I went with 1.012 because most of my beers come out that way :rolling_eyes:
     
    #4 AlCaponeJunior, Jan 8, 2013
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I am able to vote, but I won't. I figure I should remain impartial.
     
    #5 VikeMan, Jan 8, 2013
  6. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Went with 10, I like em dry w/o much caramel, pop them hops.
     
    #6 jbakajust1, Jan 8, 2013
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  7. JimmyTango

    JimmyTango Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2011 California

    11 with no c-malts.

    10 with.
     
    #7 JimmyTango, Jan 8, 2013
  8. good_gracious

    good_gracious Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2012 Maryland

    You could always vote and not post about it--you are part of "the masses", after all
     
    #8 good_gracious, Jan 8, 2013
  9. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    Not easy to choose with different varieties of IPA out there that are all perfect in my mind, but I went with 1.012 as I imagine this beer will end up voted west coast in style/pale with little body.
     
    #9 Patrick, Jan 8, 2013
  10. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    Will this be another weighted average poll? I ask because its hard to pick one depending on the exact style, personally I like something with nice grainy/biscuity backbone (flavor) yet relatively dry so 1012 is what I would shoot for
     
    #10 ryane, Jan 8, 2013
  11. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Alright... who's the a$$hole that voted for 1.018???
     
    #11 barfdiggs, Jan 8, 2013
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  12. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Better search for the guy who uses too much crystal and mashes at 158 :grimacing:
     
    #12 AlCaponeJunior, Jan 8, 2013
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  13. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    So you mean someone from Green Flash voted?! Zing.
     
    #13 barfdiggs, Jan 8, 2013
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  14. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    Or Lagunitas.
     
    #14 Patrick, Jan 8, 2013
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  15. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    They make good beer tho. :grinning:
     
    #15 AlCaponeJunior, Jan 8, 2013
  16. yinzer

    yinzer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2006 Pennsylvania

    I see it as a good argument not to use any other results than the most voted for.
     
    #16 yinzer, Jan 8, 2013
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  17. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    So do they. :sunglasses:

    I admit that whilst I've got an agenda as to what I think the final product here would be (and probably will be, lol), I must admit that the IPA/IIPA styles have a lot of flexibility, and there are many diverse examples of the styles which I would consider "good."

    However, what I (approximately) expect from this project is basically a pretty clean, low FG (1.012 max), pretty dry, heavily hopped IPA that will most likely wind up with citra, amarillo, and/or simcoe hops. :grimacing:

    Actually, that sounds pretty tasty! :grinning:
     
    #17 AlCaponeJunior, Jan 8, 2013
  18. cmac1705

    cmac1705 Zealot (517) Apr 30, 2010 Florida

    You should vote. Wouldn't be a fair representation of this forum.
     
    #18 cmac1705, Jan 8, 2013
  19. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It will probably not help you to vote at the extremes to try to move the needle on the average.
    The first one was not really a weighted average poll. The intent is to go with plurality, unless I look at the distribution and decide that a plurality might not be a fair representation. I only posted the mean and median for the first one as a confirmation that the mode was telling the truth.

    ^^^
    What he said. :slight_smile:
     
    #19 VikeMan, Jan 8, 2013
  20. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    You're doing fine on the stats hoss, no worries. :sunglasses:
     
    #20 AlCaponeJunior, Jan 8, 2013
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