Brooklyn Brew Shop?

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  1. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    I'm making my first baby step into grain brewing, I purchased the Everyday IPA kit. I've been slowly accumulating my stock pots and other things, like a hydrometer to finish off the kit. I'm ready to start brewing in the next few days.

    now, I've had ok success at "homebrewing" before with mr. beer. but I don't think that counts. My question is if I follow the instructions well, and I'm meticulous about my sanitizing, do I need to worry about making a bad batch? It certainly seems easy enough, but I'm nervous by nature and would hate to ruin a batch, regardless of how small. Has anyone used one of the kits?

    The one gallon DOES make me feel a bit better. Id hate to ruin a 5 gallon batch!
     
  2. DrewBeechum

    DrewBeechum Pooh-Bah (1,954) Mar 15, 2003 California
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    Beer happens.

    If you're taking care of the sanitizing and paying attention to your ferment - good beer happens.

    It may not be great beer, but it will be good.

    Unless you really mess up your ingredient choices. :slight_smile:
     
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  3. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    I'm going to stick with the recipe, from what I've read, its not a bad IPA. The only thing that I question is the use of honey for carbing, I feel like honey isn't exactly qa taste I want in my IPA. And I'm contemplating adding some clementine to add to the profile, but I might save that for another batch, after i can learn to make the regular one first.
     
  4. DrewBeechum

    DrewBeechum Pooh-Bah (1,954) Mar 15, 2003 California
    Pooh-Bah

    I always argue to keep things simple when you're still learning.
     
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  5. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    **** Topic Derailer**** I beleive it was either the owners of brooklyn brew shop, or some loyal customers on the tv the other day(Not my mama's meals). Bobby Dean was trying to re-create his mothers "beer in the rear" chicken and needed some lighter beer to roast his chicken in. Luckily his neighbor is an avid homebrewer and had a honey grapefruit ale that he gladly loaned bobby 4 of. Anyways i though it was freakin awesome to see homebrewing on cable tv and look forward to the day where there is a homebrewing tv channel.

    OP. I would stick to the recipe as brooklyn brew shop is a highly respected shop and I'm sure there recipe will yield a very tasty beer.
     
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  6. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Why wouldn't brewing with MrB 'count'?
     
  7. tngolfer

    tngolfer Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Tennessee

    K.I.S.S.

    Stick to the recipe.
     
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  8. good_gracious

    good_gracious Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2012 Maryland

    The BBS everyday IPA kit was my very first batch. All grain is a difficult undertaking for the first time, but its offset slightly by the reduced liquid volumes you have to deal with (not a huge benefit compared to 5 gal, but its there).

    some thoughts for you:

    1) take 3 gravity readings: after the mash, after the boil and after fermentation (let the liquid cool to room temp for the first two). These numbers will help you figure out how efficiently you extracted fermentable sugars from the grains, and to what extent your yeast converted them to alcohol.

    2) don't worry about the honey, it's such a small amount and it ferments so completely that you won't taste it.

    3) buy some no rinse sanitizer (star san or iodine) and leave the cbrite in the box. It was nerve racking to me to try and figure out if I had completely rinsed the junk out. Its really not a taste you want in your beer.

    4) buy a mesh bag for the mash. Its so easy to just pull them out of the pot, plus you don't have to worry about oxidizing your hot wort that way.

    5) speaking of oxidation, be very careful when bottling not to splash. Introducing O2 at this stage will lead to off flavors. Try this experiment to see what I mean: often when bottling you'll end up with some volume less than 12oz in your final bottle--go ahead and cap it and let it carb up with the rest. There will be so much headspace in this beer (and hence so much O2) that you'll easily be able to pick up that flavor in the future.

    That's it for now, I'll post more if I remember something else. Feel free to use all or none of the suggestions. Best of luck!
     
  9. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    Because its a relatively thought free process that resulted in mediocre beers more often than not.
     
  10. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    Yeah, you guys are right. Im going to learn how to brew some basic batches first and when I really have the hang of it, Id like to start creating or at least modifying some recipes :slight_smile:
     
  11. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    Thanks! I like the idea for the mesh bag, cooking it like oatmeal just seemed kind of weird to me and in my thought process, lead to some room for error.

    The sanitizer is a good idea too, Ill have to head to my homebrew shop and pick some up. I see a lot of people promoting star san as a great product, so Im going to drink the kool aid on that one.

    thank you for all the tips. I've been reading all kinds of things, and bought a pretty awesome book. I want to be as meticulous as possible, and learn as much as possible before I even start.

    when your IPA was done, what did you think of it?
     
  12. kelvarnsen

    kelvarnsen Pundit (944) Nov 30, 2011 Canada (ON)

    I have never made that kit, but my first 3 batches of homebrew were similar idea but from a Canadian company. They worked out ok and allowed me to get a lot of the kinks of the process before I tried making my own recipes. I still make one gallon batches now (although I use the bag method) when I want to try something that I am not sure I am going to like. One thing to be mindful of is for the one I used (not brooklyn) they had the strike water temperature set way high, which I think had an effect on my flavour and mashing. Watch that, and watch how much your mash cools over the hour, and then keep an eye on your boil off.

    One thing I learned after doing like 5 batches was to get a wooden measuring spoon and mark off 1 gallon with like a knife or something, so that you can tell where you are at at the end of your boil.
     
  13. good_gracious

    good_gracious Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2012 Maryland

    Actually the "oatmeal" method is similar to batch sparging whereas using a bag in this manner is known as BIAB (brew in a bag). Batch sparging is more efficient (more sugars extracted) but biab is a lot easier and only requires a single pot (maybe two if you wanted to dip the bag in a secondary hot water source rather than just squeezing as much wort out as possible from the single pot method). I recommended it to you because of the ease and reduced equipment requirements.

    The flavor turned out ok (for a first batch), but it could have been a lot better. Nothing to do with the recipe, mostly I just had a terrible process. I myself just hoped to learn as much as I could when I brewed it (and I did), so it didn't bother me when the beer wasn't perfect. Its great that you've done so much reading before diving in. I can't tell you how much easier it is to figure out what went wrong if you have a clear understanding of each step. In fact its good to be cognizant of these things while you're brewing so you have some expectation of how it will turn out (ie "shit, i pitched my yeast at 78 instead of 68--i bet it will taste estery").

    What book is it btw?
     
  14. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    If you are bent on small batches, Mr. Beer is hard to beat as long as you are open-sourcing your ingredients.
     
  15. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    I have started my homebrew hobby with exactly the same kit.
    Read the instructions and watch the video , make sure you have every piece of equipment in needed.

    Bottle process is really the down side of this kit, so get yourself Spring Loaded Beer Bottle Filler it fits the kit tubing and it will save you spills.
    Your next brew can be made with grain from any home brow store.
    Happy Happy.
     
  16. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Same can be said for every other basic kit...n'est pas?

    Point being...brewing with any kit is still brewing.
     
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  17. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland


    Thanks for getting back to me! I'm glad you told me about the "oatmeal" vs BIAB, because I just spent good money on a brand new 11" mesh strainer. I'm going to give it a shot. its what they show to do in the instructions, so I think it would be smart to go that route. I also purchased a brand new 16 qt and 12 qt stock pots just for the purpose of brewing. Id hate to waste that money, and I'm not necessarily looking for easy :wink:

    I keep re-reading each step and trying to understand what it does and why its important. It seems silly when I think about it, as each step isnt necessarily difficult, but each thing seems to serve a very important job, and there seems to be a lot of room for doing something that can alter the taste of the batch. I might be going overboard but i want to get it right, damnit haha

    this is the book I got, its been a great read so far

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1605291331/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

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  18. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    Ill take grain brewing over the Mr Beer extract syrup.
     
  19. good_gracious

    good_gracious Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2012 Maryland

    Sorry to tell you this amigo but I think you would have been better off buying a bigger pot instead of both of the little ones. Its exactly the same amount of effort to do 5 gal batches, and based on your posts I'd be willing to bet that you'll migrate to 5 sooner rather than later. At least you'll have a couple of nice stock pots! I still use my 3gal stock pot for various things fwiw.

    The book looks pretty good--well designed if nothing else. You should also check out www.howtobrew.com, "the complete joy of home brewing", "yeast" and "brewing classic styles". All are great and the website is particularly good for practical info.
     
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  20. HipsterBrewfus

    HipsterBrewfus Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2012 Maryland

    You're probably right, but me and my fiancee are both avid cooks, so I have a feeling that They'll still get lots of use. And, on amazon, they were practically giving them away, I got such good prices that I wont feel bad when I ditch them for bigger stuff.

    The book is well designed, but also well written. it really breaks everything down in easy to understand. I've learned more about not just brewing, but beer in general, in the last few days just by reading it, and I'm only about halfway through. I know it wont be the only resource I have, but it might be a constant go-to. I have the site you posted bookmarked for future reference also. I took a quick and through it, and there's a lot of helpful information. At this point, I just want to be a sponge, and take in as much information as I can, so I can be the best brewer I can, so i can bring to live some of these recipes and ideas I have, without fucking anything up too bad. I have a feeling I'll probably learn a lot here too, through a lot of yous guys trials and tribulations.
     
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