German Beer Appreciation 2025

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  1. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    Oh no, another ...appreciation thread. But why not? The purpose of this thread is for those of us who love German beers to celebrate them and to, hopefully, introduce new beer drinkers to some of the world's best "drinking" beers.

    The main criteria are beers made in Germany; however, if you find a non-German based brewery doing a style justice, by all means share! And please do let others know where you acquired it. Let's help folks locate these wonderful imports.

    I'll try to set the tone for the tread with one of the world's great and unique beers - Schneider Weisse Mein Original Tap 7 Weissbier. If you enjoy Weissbier and get a chance to try Tap 7, don't hesitate. Weihenstephaner also makes one of the world's best but Tap 7 provides a unique bridge between pale Hefe and dark Dunkelweizen. Not many breweries make one like it.

    My hope is this thread encourages BA's to explore all the many styles from Germany and even the history behind how they came about. Revisit, explore, and enjoy. Prost!

    Link to BA styles: https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/styles/

    Schneider Weisse Tap 7
    5.4% ABV
    Purchased at Westside Beverage in Forsyth County, GA
    Also available at Max Beverage in Cumming, GA

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    More on Schneider Weisse Tap 7:
    https://schneider-weisse.de/en/node/12
     
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  2. ZlaVydra

    ZlaVydra Pooh-Bah (1,965) Jun 15, 2015 Georgia
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    I drank that quite a few times waaaay back in the day in Berlin. I'll need to grab some next time I'm at Max.
     
  3. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    You lucky dog. I would love have it on tap fresh, although, because it's bottle conditioned I think it holds up fine for U.S. distro. Westside Beverage off Post Rd. in Forsyth has it to most of the time.
     
  4. irishstoutlvr

    irishstoutlvr Devotee (341) Jun 4, 2012 Texas

    Not a German brewery, but in North Carolina, there is a brewery called Red Oak. All of their ingredients come from Germany, aside from the water. Their beers are really good. On the wall in the brewpub is a map of Germany. On one occasion, there were two German speaking gentleman looking at the map. I asked if they were from Germany. They were. I asked them their take on the beer. They said it was pretty legit.
     
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  5. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    Glad to hear there's another NC brewery doing German styles justice. Olde Mecklenburg brewey jumps to mind immediately for me, but there are certainly others. Brewing techniques & water make the difference. American brewers try to replicate the water from different regions but I would imagine it is very difficult to copy exactly.
     
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  6. irishstoutlvr

    irishstoutlvr Devotee (341) Jun 4, 2012 Texas

    Olde Mecklenburg is really good. They have a cool setup there
     
  7. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    I have not had an opportunity to go there yet but hope to sometime soon. They have a stellar rep for beer for sure.
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Building brewing water is not difficult.

    Bear in mind that the German brewers in all likelihood also treat their brewing water vs. just using "regional" water.

    Cheers!
     
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  9. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    We've discussed that before Jack. Since you have experience actually brewing, what is it that makes the German beers seem a notch better? It may just be my perception. I've had many excellent German style beers brewed in the U.S., but the imports always seem to still have a slight edge (mouthfeel and head retention in particular). I may be all wet on that. It's subjective at the end of the day.
     
  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Now, that is something we can agree on!
    From my perspective this statement is akin to a 'broad brush'. For example I often find Warsteiner beers at my local beer retailers and those beers are not "a notch better" for my palate. Having stated that I do enjoy beers from other German breweries such as Ayinger, Traunstein, Rothhaus,...are these beers a "notch better" than the German style beers brewed by local craft breweries like Human Robot, Mainstay, Root Down, Sterling Pig,...? Hmm!?!

    There are many choices which must be made to produce beers and given that lagers have that extra step of the lagering process it could be argued they are even more process driven then brewing beers. The resulting beers will be a 'result' of all of those decisions and execution of the processes.

    If you have the opinion that the German breweries are 'best' here the wise decision for you is to continued purchasing German brewed beers. This very well could be a situation of perception equates to reality?

    Prost!

    P.S. If this is a 'burning issue/question' for you I highly recommend you read the book Modern Lager Beer: Techniques, Processes and Recipes by Jack Hendler & Joe Connolly. There is lots of discussion about German/traditional brewing in that book. I regularly communicated with Joe Connolly on a number of lager brewing topics when he was constructing the book.
     
  11. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    You're right, I probably did paint with a broad brush. I was thinking about beers from Ayinger, Rothaus, Weihenstephaner, Schneider Weisse, and Augustiner primarily. As those are the ones I drink the most frequently. I hadn't thought as much about the lagering process. That would make some sense. Thought it might be decoction but that was laid aside when I read somewhere that Ayinger doesn't use the method any longer.

    Jack, don't get me wrong. It's not that I think American lager breweries don't make excellent beers. Bierstadt, Victory, Schilling, Altstadt and many others dispel that myth. I prefer to buy from a few of my local lager breweries because the more fresh the better they are. It's just I perceive some subtle differences in German made beers that engage me a little more. I've noticed some of the imports slowly getting harder to find and I really would hate see most of them disappear off the shelves.
    Thanks for the book suggestions. Prost!
     
  12. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    If you try them actually in Germany, those differences are far less subtle.
     
  13. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    I'd love to find that out in person one day.
     
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  14. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    As well you should! Any beer lover needs a pilgrimage to Germany at some point -- especially Bavaria.
     
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  15. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    @JackHorzempa to your point, this is an average German Pils. New to me. I've had domestics much better, including from Good Word, Halfway Crooks, and Tucker Brewing here locally. It's balanced but lighter bodied. Could use a little more bitterness but was okay for me. Saw it on the menu at lunch and had to try it of course.

    Alsfeld Pilsner 4.8% ABV

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  16. Techichi

    Techichi Pooh-Bah (2,061) Sep 25, 2012 Texas
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    I am of mostly Irish/American decent, so don't tell anyone...but German beer is really the best.

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  17. Techichi

    Techichi Pooh-Bah (2,061) Sep 25, 2012 Texas
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    And another today...

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  18. ATL6245

    ATL6245 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,984) Aug 16, 2018 Georgia
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    Excellent choices there @Techichi! Aventinus is one of my favorites. I have never had the Erdinger Dunkel. Not one I see often here. Need to keep my eyes peeled.

    I've got both Irish and German blood. That explains my lean to German for sure. Prost!
     
  19. Techichi

    Techichi Pooh-Bah (2,061) Sep 25, 2012 Texas
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    The Erdinger is good, but nothing to write home about. I would definitely recommend for anyone looking for a good, dark wheat beer though.
     
  20. Blogjackets

    Blogjackets Grand Pooh-Bah (4,816) Nov 22, 2017 Ohio
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    Ayinger Weizenbock. Another great beer by an amazing brewery. Cheers.

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