Packaging Date Or Expiration Date. Which Do You Prefer For your Beer?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by LesDewitt4beer, Mar 19, 2026.

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Packaging Date Or Expiration Date?

  1. Packaging Date

    99 vote(s)
    91.7%
  2. Expiration Date

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  3. Doesn't Matter

    6 vote(s)
    5.6%
  1. BeerSnobSean

    BeerSnobSean Initiate (181) Mar 1, 2023 Michigan

    I saw a bunch of wonderful looking Brewery Faison beers on a room temperature shelf with no dates whatsoever. I’ll pass every time. Illegible dates are a disappointment too.
     
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  2. deleted_user_1379257

    deleted_user_1379257 Pundit (865) Feb 17, 2026
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    I’ve come across so many dirty taps (or tap line) I am quite gun shy…

    That’s why I’d often rather have an old can/bottle than a dirty tap line. Or bourbon, two fingers neat.
     
  3. DoctorZombies

    DoctorZombies Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,827) Feb 1, 2015 Florida
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    Actually, I prefer canned or bottled date. Look at “packaged” date on a mixed 12 box. Then open the box and find that some of cans are dated 1 or 2 weeks earlier. Fat Heads just pulled this trick on me with its mixed 12 box.
     
  4. LesDewitt4beer

    LesDewitt4beer Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,315) Jan 25, 2021 Minnesota
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    Interesting. I too have seen this as well, that being the date on the box and the stamp on the cans are different. Esp in variety packs. Hmm.
     
  5. chinchill

    chinchill Grand Pooh-Bah (5,541) Feb 29, 2008 South Carolina
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    An expiration date allows me to have an educated guess at the shelf life of a beer while I regularly find expiration dates to be overly optimistic or too pessimistic. Certainly some breweries are eager to see that their beer is not sold when it's somewhat likely to be in poor condition if improperly stored.
     
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  6. detgfrsh

    detgfrsh Pooh-Bah (2,487) Jun 20, 2014 Texas
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    Packaging date. I know enough about beer styles to judge for myself if it's too old.
     
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  7. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,045) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    I think part of the reason why some companies choose a best by date is also so that hopefully the retail or bar that sells the beer will notice the date and reorder a fresh batch so that they won't sell old beer to the customer. Thing is, if a consumer tastes an old beer past it's prime or best by date then they may not enjoy it and think it is off or not good quality, when it could just be a little too old for the style.

    Using a best by date allows both the consumer and seller to see the projected freshness and is more likely to reject a sale and consumption, and maybe the retailer or bar will have a reason to get a refund credit back from the wholesaler for the old expired beer cases. With only a canned on or packaged date there is no way to really prove that it is no longer good other than your opinion, when the bar could just say there is no indication that it isn't good to drink and still sell it.
     
  8. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I have seen packaged on and best by on the same can. Can’t remember the brewery.

    I also do not like the BS of putting a packed on date on the mix 12 pack box and then open it to see old beers. I don’t want to know when you put them in the box. The date on this box should be the date of the oldest can/bottle.

    I no longer purchase Founders but they were a huge offender in this date type.

    No date is a no buy for me 99% of the time.


    Enjoy
     
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  9. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Good point. I personally don't want to drink an ipa that's more than 10 weeks old, but I can't prove to the seller that the beer is no longer at its best. I can see him shrugging, telling me that no one else has complained, so why should he pull the beer?

    I should add that even here in (relatively) beer sophisticated PDX, I'm always amazed by the number of places that think nothing of selling 5 or 6 month old ipa's. Most really don't seem to realize that beer ages and eventually becomes all but undrinkable... certainly nothing like the beer the brewer originally brewed.
     
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  10. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Likewise. There are some places I trust, but even then, who knows how old the beer was when they got it in the store. Many breweries in PDX self distribute to the metro area, and some of those places I trust to deliver fresh product to their retailers. If it's also to a retailer I trust (I tend not to buy beer from retailers I don't trust), then maybe I'll buy a beer that doesn't have an expiration or a packaging date.

    But it's really rare. I don't want to encourage that sort of behavior by buying their products.
     
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  11. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    This assumes that the consumer knows more about the product than the manufacturer.

    Is that true? Who the fuck knows.
     
  12. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I don't care. I'm not a big nerd on the subject, and most of the time don't even look to see if there is a date if it's a beer I'm interested in (new to me, or new brewery), or am very familiar with (Deschutes Mirror Pond), but will check dates at certain stores (Bevmo, Grocery Outlet, I'm talking to you).
     
  13. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,045) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    The problem is the store ends up taking a loss if the product goes unsold or wasted, and most wholesalers probably don't want to give them credit back, so they try to sell whatever they can to unsuspecting customers. IPAs and hoppy beers in particular are actually a problem when it comes to freshness, because I as well don't enjoy hazy IPAs nearly as much once it gets past about 2 months, but to say all hazy IPAs in distribution should be sold within a 2-3 month timeframe isn't really going to work, that's why hyperlocal breweries are good and statewide or regional access at least. I know as good as all the Tree House and Trillium IPAs are, they aren't nearly as great after about 2 months, which is part of the reason why they distribute the beer themselves for quality and freshness control purposes, and it doesn't end up getting lost and old in some random wholesale warehouse distribution portfolio. Most beers like lagers and other lighter styles I do enjoy fresher, but I would still enjoy almost as much even 6 or 9 months down the line because the flavor is malt forward and not hoppy. I see old beers on store shelves all the time too, and it really depends on the style whether I think it should be pulled or not. The incentive for stores not to pull the old product is because they can still make a profit off it instead of taking a loss.
     
  14. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Plus, the vast majority of consumers have no awareness concerning old beer. Most just pull their purchase off the shelf, pay for it, and assume it will be fine. For most consumers, even if its months old, it is.

    With that level of "sophistication", what incentive is there for the store to pull old product off the shelf?

    Years ago I was at a beer bar that had Deschutes Hop Henge DIPA on the menu (bombers). I was intrigued, because I thought Deschutes had stopped making it. The proprietor assured me it was fresh, that he'd just gotten it in a couple weeks earlier (and had sold several bottles with no complaints). He'd just gotten a single case of it. I asked if I could see a bottle and pointed out that the beer was roughly 6 months past its expiration date. The proprietor was pissed for a variety of reasons, including me for pointing this out to him. On the one hand I could tell he didn't feel as if he could continue selling bottles now that he knew about the expiration date, but on the other hand the previous buyers hadn't complained when they drank it. So maybe it was OK after all.

    I wasn't a frequent patron at this beer bar, and didn't visit again for more than a year. So I have no idea what he decided to do, but would guess he kept the beer and continued selling it. Why not?
     
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  15. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I liked that beer.
     
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  16. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Me too. Probably my favorite deschutes ipa ever. Hence my initial excitement when I saw it on the menu at Piaci's pizza in Ft. Bragg.
     
  17. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,045) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Just grabbed a new beer today with a “best by” date stamped on it instead of the canned on date. I still bought it because I know it’s a fairly new and fresh seasonal release, and it’s still a few months away from being best by. I still wonder though if it was canned in January with a 6 month best by date or what, still unable to know exactly how old the beer is.

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  18. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    It does not assume that the consumer knows more about the product than the manufacture. In fact, I specially state that the brewer knows when the product is at its best. I’m highly skeptical that the best by dates we see on cans/bottles reflect what the brewer truly believes. Thus, while I am quite confident that the manufacturer knows more, and likely much more, than the consumer, I am even more confident that they want to make money.
     
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  19. deleted_user_1379257

    deleted_user_1379257 Pundit (865) Feb 17, 2026
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    Is it safe to assume canned beer that is two or more years old is “bad?”

    My fiancée enjoys buying beer she likes from microbreweries we’ve visited, but she doesn’t generally follow through and drink them in a timely fashion.
     
  20. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
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    Here's an idea: TELL ME WHEN THE BEER WAS BREWED. Packaging dates, although I love them, can be deceiving. Cheers!
     
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