The Averagely Perfect American IPA Project - Poll #11- Recommended Mash Temp

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Select a Recommended Mash Temperature

Poll closed Jan 28, 2013.
  1. 147 F

    1.0%
  2. 148 F

    4.8%
  3. 149 F

    9.6%
  4. 150 F

    33.7%
  5. 151 F

    18.3%
  6. 152 F

    26.0%
  7. 153 F

    2.9%
  8. 154 F

    2.9%
  9. 155 F

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 156 F

    1.0%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Time to select a recommended mash temp. Recommended, because the mash temp can be a knob used by individual brewers to dial in the fermentability (wort sugar profile) to hit the selected final gravity, given all the other constants already selected, and their own system/process characteristics. So why bother with a recommended mash temp at all? Because some less experienced brewers may not have a clue where to start, so a central tendency of group data might be their best bet.

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    The Averagely Perfect American IPA Recipe so far...
    5 Gallons
    Target ABV: 6.5%
    Target OG: 1.062
    Target FG: 1.012
    Apparent Attenuation: 81%

    Grain Bill:
    Two-Row Brewer's Malt (92%)
    Crystal 40 (5%)
    Carapils (3%)

    Yeast:
    Wyeast 1056/WLP001/US-05
     
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  2. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    Opinions are like a-holes, this one could turn into a shit storm.

    I voted for 152 based on my system taking all previous factors into account.
     
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  3. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    It will be interesting to see what the range that people report is. I'm not sure what conclusions we'll be able to draw from it, though. Some people know their system behavior well, others, not so much. Take me for example: My last two beers that were most similar to this both dropped from 1.062 to 1.010. One was mashed at 148F and the other was mashed at 152F. Ironically, I'm on my way to the LHBS to get a couple new lab thermometers for my mash (because misplaced mine, not because I don't trust it).
     
  4. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    You have a LHBS? Or, is it still that market that has "some" homebrewing supplies?
     
  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    It's the convenient market/liquor store (They also get the New Glarus Fingerprint beers :slight_smile:) with some homebrewing supplies. They do have a surprising assortment of basic equipment. Imagine a small grocery store with about 16 feet of shelving devoted to equipment, and about 4 feet of shelving devoted to ingredients. If all the beers I brewed were with extract w/ specialty grains, some basic hops, and dry yeast, I could get by. The lack of base malt grains and yeast is the big downer. If I wanted to brew a beer based on ingredients in the store today, I would have been stuck with S-33 or Nottingham. They don't get regularly resupplied. But I was able to pick up two cheapo glass thermometers for $6 a pop. Now I need to calibrate them for mashing in tomorrow.
     
  6. rmalinowski4

    rmalinowski4 Pundit (753) Oct 22, 2010 Illinois

    This is where it gets tricky for me, this will be my first all grain batch, so I have no idea what my efficiency is. I'm planning on just following the recipe and seeing how it comes out.
     
  7. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
    Society Pooh-Bah

    I am sorta in the same boat. Mainly, I'm just lazy, and haven't bothered to calculate. It hasn't mattered much tho, the beer I make comes out tasty even without checking the math on efficiency. :rolling_eyes:
     
  8. yinzer

    yinzer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2006 Pennsylvania

    For mash temp you don't pick it depending on efficiency , temp has to do with how fermentable the wort will be. Efficiency would be you might have to use more or less base malt than I. Which opens another can of worms. Some say that you only need to adjust base malt, so possibly not everyone will have the same percentage of malts.
     
  9. rmalinowski4

    rmalinowski4 Pundit (753) Oct 22, 2010 Illinois

    I get what you are saying, my point was that I have no way to accurately predict my gravities, I'm at the mercy of my processes, which I have no experiences with.
     
  10. samtallica

    samtallica Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2010 North Carolina

    How are you going to be mashing? If you're doing Brew in a Bag, you can probably expect something in the low 60s. If you're using a cooler with a manifold/false bottom/steel braid, you can probably expect something between 70 and 75%. If you're recirculating your mash, you could possibly get into the 80s or higher.
     
  11. rmalinowski4

    rmalinowski4 Pundit (753) Oct 22, 2010 Illinois

    I'm using a cooler with a steel braid.
     
  12. samtallica

    samtallica Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2010 North Carolina

    I use a rubbermaid cylindrical cooler with a steel braid and I batch sparge. I can usually expect about 75% efficiency with a beer of this size.
     
  13. rmalinowski4

    rmalinowski4 Pundit (753) Oct 22, 2010 Illinois

    That's what I'm planning on doing, thanks for the info.
     
  14. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Same system I use. 75%. Check. Now I've done the math. :rolling_eyes:
     
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  15. MADhombrewer

    MADhombrewer Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2008 Oregon

  16. yinzer

    yinzer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2006 Pennsylvania

    If you know your boil off rate it's easy to fix. You can always add in DME if too low. If too high add in water.

    I've been doing all grain for a while and I just got a new MT and I've been playing around with trying to use only first running. I've had to add DME in a few times. It's not a crime to miss your numbers. I think people normally just roll with it. This effect being different.
     
  17. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
    Pooh-Bah

    I figure most will take the 150, with some wanting to go to 148 or so that feel that they won't get it down low enough. I suspect that majority will do 150-152.
     
  18. samtallica

    samtallica Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2010 North Carolina

    Definitely not suggesting people use my numbers, just trying to give a new person some idea of what they can expect.
     
  19. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Of course I understand. It's just that I haven't been focusing on efficiency yet. Truthfully, it's probably varied somewhat as I'm still trying to dial in the volumes and temperatures for mashing and sparging. Getting closer tho!
     
  20. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    Looks like 151° may be the winner (150.7245° average right now)
     
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