Allagash Coolship in MA?

Discussion in 'New England' started by bostonbeans, Feb 7, 2013.

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  1. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    I don't have a problem with this. If a tiger is born and raised in captivity, it's still a wild animal. It takes many many generations for it to evolve and become a tabby cat before we can say it's domesticated.
     
  2. woosterbill

    woosterbill Pooh-Bah (2,807) Apr 6, 2009 Kentucky
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    I too am generally ok with calling an isolated strain of Brettanomyces a "wild" yeast, but I think it starts to verge on misinformation when a beer fermented with a lab strain gets called a "wild ale." This implies that the beer's fermentation was left to the course of nature when, clearly, it was not.

    To continue with your quite apt wild animal analogy, bringing up a wild animal in captivity doesn't make the animal non-wild, but neither does it make its new captive habitat wilderness.
     
  3. mclaughlindw4

    mclaughlindw4 Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2009 Maine

  4. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Not to confuse this conversation but Allagash's house brett strain was isolated from the area surrounding their brewery. Maybe you knew that. It has the spirit of spontaneity by fermenting with the region's wild yeast.
     
  5. woosterbill

    woosterbill Pooh-Bah (2,807) Apr 6, 2009 Kentucky
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    Very cool, I actually didn't know that. I knew that New Glarus did something similar for their R&D "Gueuze", although I think in that case Dan threw in more microflora than just Brett. Anyhow, I still think it's fair to maintain a distinction between an inoculated beer and a spontaneous one, and that the popularization of the "wild" terminology has made this distinction confusing for many.

    First world problems, I know. Cheers!
     
  6. kinopio

    kinopio Savant (1,037) Apr 30, 2009 Massachusetts

    Had FV-13 on tap at Vee Vee over the weekend and really liked it. Glad they are distributing bottles.
     
  7. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I know the first gueuze was spontaneously fermented next to a barn or something. It was blended with a little bit of a normally fermented sour that didnt turn out so well. That story could possibly be flipped because I dont remember so well.
     
  8. beerinmaine

    beerinmaine Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2009 Maine

    FV13: tomorrow.
     
  9. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    Question answered; releases are currently brewery only.
     
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