Why the predominance of bourbon barrels for barrel aging?

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  1. ForkAndSpoonOp

    ForkAndSpoonOp Initiate (0) May 4, 2011 Pennsylvania

    1850 gallons at a time.
     
  2. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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  3. Giovannilucano

    Giovannilucano Pooh-Bah (1,975) Feb 24, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Jägermeister’s ingredients include 56 herbs, fruits, roots and spices including citrus peel, licorice, anise, poppy seeds, saffron, ginger, juniper berries and ginseng.[6] These ingredients are ground, then steeped in water and alcohol for 2–3 days. Afterwards, this mixture is filtered and stored in oak barrels for about a year. When a year has passed, the liqueur is filtered again, then mixed with sugar, caramel, alcohol and water. It is filtered one last time and then bottled
     
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  4. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    Seriously, my frat boy Jaeger days are behind me (more or less) but I'd like to try a Jaeger barrel aged beer
     
  5. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Why?
    Have you tired the Belgo Anise IRS? wretched.
     
  6. danieelol

    danieelol Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2010 Australia

    It's Availability

    Lots of Bourbon in the US

    BrewDog age everything in Scotch casks cause that's what's available

    Australian brewers use a fair amount of wine barrels
     
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  7. GodlessWatermelon

    GodlessWatermelon Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2012 Maryland

    I love that beer
     
  8. HoptimusPrimeIPA

    HoptimusPrimeIPA Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Florida

    Cognac Barrels are where it's at IMO, and this is from a man that loves his bourbon.
     
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  9. GennyCreamAle

    GennyCreamAle Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2009 New York

    Sounds like something Mr. Calagione would dream up
     
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  10. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Pooh-Bah (1,972) Feb 27, 2009 Illinois
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    I think there are way more beers aged in bourbon barrels than whiskey barrels. That's why most BA beers say "bourbon barrel aged".
     
  11. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    Whisk(e)y is a broad term for the style of liquor and the standards for barrel usage does vary by the type of whisk(e)y. In the US, to be labeled Bourbon or Rye, the liquor must be aged in new, charred oak barrels. There is no second use for these distilleries. Many distilleries in Scotland have contracts with American distilleries for their barrels and use them to age their Scotch.
     
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  12. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    You could try some Braunschweiger Mumme (Jaegermeister -- and my wife -- is from the Braunschweig area). Described as "a wholesome drink, brewed from wheat malt, boiled down to a third of its original quantity, to which were added oatmeal and ground beans, and after working quite a number of herbs and other vegetable products, including the tops of fir and birch, a handful of burnet, betony, marjoram, avens, pennyroyal, wild-thyme, and elder-flowers, and a few ounces of cardamum seeds and barberries . . . Fill up at last and when 'tis stopt, put into the hogshead two new-laid eggs unbroken or crackt, stop it up close, and drink it at two years end." Don't know what types of barrels are used (I'd guess it's oak), and I've never tried the stuff myself. My in-laws all say it's pretty dreadful....
     
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  13. Spider889

    Spider889 Pooh-Bah (1,933) Mar 24, 2010 Ohio
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    As mentioned it's availability, which in turn points to the true reason: price. After talking to several breweries on this subject it seems bourbon barrels can be obtained for around $50-100/ea. Rum and the like are closer to $400+ with higher shipping in most cases and miniscule availability. I want to say that when I asked specifically about Calvados barrels the brewer told me he had looked into it but they cost $900-1000. And again, not many are out there to begin with...
     
  14. RblWthACoz

    RblWthACoz Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2006 Pennsylvania

  15. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    Have you moved on to Chartreuse? The VEP Green is one of the greatest fluids I've consumed. Well deserving of the name "elixir of life."
     
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  16. Tashbrew

    Tashbrew Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2007 California

    Availability, price, character, source of Oak... Wine makers tend to use their barrels for at least three turns...the barrels are retired once deemed 'Oak neutral'. Of course depending on how the barrels have been handled there is always a potential of 'critters' being resident.

    French, Hungarian and American Oak wine barrels vary greatly in price (and quality of Oak). Wine barrels are plentiful and can be found easily on www.winebusiness.com/classifeds. Prices range from $20-600+ The French stuff sells quite high.

    Cognac, Rum, Brandy, and more. Rum and Brandy are usually aged in used bourbon barrels. Used until oak neutral.
    Rum comes back from Caribean and not cheap either. Cognac is compelling but expense is high and results vary.

    Tequila barrel aged beer....no!

    Bourbon/Whiskey/Rye Barrels are one and done 99% of the time. Once emptied they have to be moved off the property quickly and there are brokers that do nothing but process orders for those barrels.
     
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  17. BigTomZ

    BigTomZ Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Virginia

    I just drank a Brandy barrel barleywine, Sleepin with Shaggy, last night and it was amazing. (thanks evilc).
     
  18. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    ISO: Jager barrel Imperial Stout FT: all inhibitions and self control.
     
  19. JulianC

    JulianC Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2012 Illinois

    Thinking about cracking my Revolution rum barrel aged barleywine tonight.
     
  20. bramsdell

    bramsdell Initiate (0) May 27, 2011 North Carolina

    Straight to Ale's burgundy barrel RIS is excellent. The cognac version is also excellent.
     
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