interesting, but sad trend

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BamBamJohnny, Apr 14, 2013.

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  1. BamBamJohnny

    BamBamJohnny Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2011 Georgia

    So I work as the beer manager in a fairly reputable liquor store in marietta, GA and i've noticed some of the popular beers from last year, ones which we couldn't keep in stock to save our lives, are just over looked this year. Bells oberon and 21sts hell or high watermelon to name the least, on top of that I've noticed wine drinks along with spirit drinkers and more importantly some beer drinkers, looking for beers with high ABV. Granted there are plenty high ones that have wonderful flavors along with the boozy flavor, but these people don't think the other beers taste good, unless they have 9% and above ABV. Has anyone else noticed that?
     
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  2. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Pooh-Bah (2,851) Jun 18, 2012 Missouri
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    I actually just bought a six-pack of Oberon two days ago. Anyway,

    Nope. I've just noticed that higher ABV beers cost more, and a good number of them (Imperial Stouts and Barleywines) I don't particularly care for.

    I'll just stick to my beers that are (mostly) about 5-9% and be content.
     
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  3. loafinaround

    loafinaround Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2011 New York

    many high abv beers are more flavorful.... (I'm thinking stouts, dark ales, and some IPA's)

    I think people are just craving more and more flavor intensity
     
  4. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    I think this is a fairly correct statement, but there are plenty of flavorful beers that have a lower abv.
     
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  5. Beerisheaven

    Beerisheaven Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Go to beer festivals. A lot of attendees looking to get hammered don't care what they drink as long as it is high octane. It is a shame that a lot of great beers get overlooked. In Philly, some of the Russian Rivers which were once snapped up immediately now sit. Nature of the beast.
     
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  6. Blueribbon666

    Blueribbon666 Pooh-Bah (1,669) Jul 4, 2008 Ohio
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    I agree, but the trick is finding them. That's the thrill of the hunt, for every road apple you end up putting back it's nice to be pleasantly surprised. Last year's winner for me was Breckenridge's Agave Wheat, bought a single not expecting much just mixing in a light one w/the heavies & damn if I don't keep my eye out for this as a good sessioner to have around or take to a party. It definitely had me circling back & re-evaluating Breckenridge's stuff a little more that's for sure.
     
  7. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Nope regardless of ABV some are just looking for the latest/greatest most sought after when great brews are right on the shelf ..
     
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  8. mindfuldave

    mindfuldave Savant (1,089) Mar 22, 2011 New Jersey

    You couldn't keep Hell or High Watermelon on the shelves?

    Stuff was yucky
     
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  9. nrs207

    nrs207 Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Get some Cantillon then see how fast a 5% beer can fly out the door. Oberon is terrible imo.
     
  10. BamBamJohnny

    BamBamJohnny Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2011 Georgia

    I love plenty of low abv beers, and love plenty of high ones. It just blew my mind that someone would skip over dogfish head 60 or stone ipa or sierra nevada pale ale cause it doesn't have enough booze in it....some turned down Enjoy by....
     
  11. BamBamJohnny

    BamBamJohnny Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2011 Georgia

    Brooklyn chocolate stout, terrapin Gamma ray, left hand wake up dead, all great and loaded with booze....sweetwater gimp...maybe sit on it and wait..
     
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  12. TheBeerShop

    TheBeerShop Initiate (0) Jul 23, 2012 Massachusetts

    I think price point has a bit to do with it. As does weather. When its cold, I want high octane and I don't want to drink 10 beers. In summer, I want something I can sip on all day, or cans so I can go out and about.
     
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  13. Buff0910

    Buff0910 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2013 Alabama

    I definitely tend to look for 8% or more usually because that is where the flavor is. I have to have complexity now. I don't drink for drinking sake, I like the flavor. The higher abv tends to have it. Of course most impy stouts, porters, and barley wines are all at least that high and that's about all I buy. I think there is a huge shift of craft drinkers to these beers as referenced by this forum and BAs top 250 beers itself.
     
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  14. shand

    shand Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 13, 2010 Florida
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    I've definitely noticed some "Dude, this is 12 percent!" marketing going on. I think a lot of my younger brethren get far too caught up on ABV.

    Personally, I'd love to see more American breweries take on the sub-4% range of ABV.
     
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  15. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Well, I wonder if this contributes? Go look at the top 250 list. Just four of the Top 30 are less than 8% ABV. Zombie Dust at 6.4, Supplication at 7, Cantillion FF at 5, Beautification at 5.5. Assuming I can count correctly, I think that says a lot. So...think about a whole bunch of people that hop on to this site, look up the best beers list, and don't really do any research. What will they think? A session brew or anything less than 8-ish percent doesn't stand a chance.

    I think the point was made about seekers of the next big thing which can't be denied - that is the way of the world today. And I am sure there's a percentage looking for a buzz,but there are much easier and more cost effective ways to achieve that than beer. Can't really claim high ABV beers are a bargain buzz.

    My personal tendency is to vary with season. I like a nice high ABV in the winter,and progressively lighten up as the weather warms. OP said Georgia? Don't think it actually gets cold there....
     
  16. Nectar

    Nectar Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2013 New Jersey

    Imperial Palate Syndrome. I really feel that it's a mix of people wanting to experience big, bold flavors and people wanting to get a load on while cracking as few bottle caps as possible.
     
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  17. fx20736

    fx20736 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2009 New York

    I'm not picking on you personally but this statement represents everything about craft beer that is starting to turn me off and make me want to buy PBR and Genny.
     
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  18. Lorianneb

    Lorianneb Pundit (919) Apr 27, 2012 New Jersey

    I second this. In the winter, I go for the darker and higher ABV. But come summer, I want something lighter and lower so I can hang out longer.
     
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  19. litheum94

    litheum94 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2008 California

    I do think there is a large portion of people who want "more bang for their buck," and so go for higher ABV beers. As mentions above, these beers do also tend to have a little more complexity going on.

    I definitely went through a nothing but DIPA/BA stout/barley wine phase, but have moved closer to the center of the ABV range now. Most people will regress towards the norm if they stay in the beer game long enough.
     
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  20. rmalinowski4

    rmalinowski4 Pundit (753) Oct 22, 2010 Illinois

    This summer it's all about low abv sessionable beers for me. Looking for saisons, pales, sours, wheats, Berliners, and anything I can find around 4%. I couldn't tell you how many times I could of gone for a high abv stout this winter and said no because I didn't want 12oz of 15% beer when I had to run out later in the night and shuttle kids from activities. It's not much fun cracking them at 10pm when you get up at 5 am for work.
     
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