A Philo-HOP-ical Question . . . .

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  1. Quantum_Dong

    Quantum_Dong Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2013 Wisconsin

    Camus would say there's no meaning to craft beer. Screw Camus.
     
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  2. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    From my profile page:

    The search for the perfect beer is like the search for the perfect wave or for perfect powder. One eventually finds that perfection does not exist, and that by looking for perfection a long and delightful succession of nearly perfect examples has been discovered and enjoyed. Cheers!
     
  3. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Possibly one of the most inane threads I've seen.
     
  4. Craigory

    Craigory Initiate (0) Nov 10, 2012 South Carolina

    No joke--spoken like a true analytic philosopher.

    But I'll throw in my beer/philosophy related question: is beer good because it shares in the form of the Good, i.e. (according to Boethius at least) because it participates in the divine nature? Or is it good because it fulfills its function as a beer, in much the same way that a "good" watch is one that keeps time and such?
     
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  5. Vonstein15

    Vonstein15 Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2010 Ohio

    that is why i drink what is good and the to hell to the hunt.Cheers
     
  6. superspak

    superspak Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,927) May 5, 2010 North Carolina
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    I love a majority of styles, and would someday like to be a master of all of them. Some days I feel like an IPA, some days Doppelbock, some days Barelywine; you get the picture. There is no perfect beer in my field of view.
     
  7. BrewddhistDrunk

    BrewddhistDrunk Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 Iowa

    nietzsche - beer is dead
     
  8. fox227

    fox227 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2010 California

    The unexamined beer isn't worth drinking...
     
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  9. RochefortChris

    RochefortChris Grand Pooh-Bah (3,271) Oct 2, 2012 North Carolina
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    People love beer
    Beer loves only me
    Therefore I am beer
     
  10. bramsdell

    bramsdell Initiate (0) May 27, 2011 North Carolina


    Already asked that one. I put it more simply.
     
  11. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    I don't care if I find a beer that I deem to be perfect and love more than any other beer I've ever had before and it sits on the shelf available to me all the time. I'd still seek out others.

    It's why celebrities cheat on their supermodel wives...sometimes you just want something different even though what you have is awesome.
     
  12. Craigory

    Craigory Initiate (0) Nov 10, 2012 South Carolina

    I was referencing Aristotle and Boethius, not Plato's Euthyphro.

    It clearly didn't go over correctly...the suggestion was that beer might be God.
     
  13. bramsdell

    bramsdell Initiate (0) May 27, 2011 North Carolina

    Ah, I see. Just skimmed it quickly. Good reference. Still influence of the forms.
     
  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I found the perfect powder once: I skied China Bowl (Vail) first thing on a brilliant sunny day (not a single cloud in the sky) with 10+ inches of fresh powder. When I started there was not a single track on the thousand+ acres of skiable area. I just skied China Bowl all morning and it was thing of beauty!

    The next time I skied China Bowl (years later) it was all mush (mashed potatoes). I forlornly thought back on the previous wonderful day of skiing China Bowl.

    Cheers!
     
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  15. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    This thread is the wet dream of any beer drinker that took Philosophy 101 in college.
     
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  16. EdelweissDad

    EdelweissDad Initiate (0) Jun 27, 2012 Georgia

    I think the first would entail the second. Though it could just be the second, and not the first. Neat thought!
     
  17. JamesShoemaker

    JamesShoemaker Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2012 Michigan

    Camus, I think, would say that the drive to hunt for good beer is an absurd condition, but one which must be satisfied. He would argue that ignoring the condition and giving into it are the same thing, but that by giving in you give yourself the chance to live a productive life.
     
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  18. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    And Kierkegaard would say that constantly seeking out different beers in the hopes of "experiencing the new beyond the expectation of the new" is tantamount to aesthetic damnation — living by rotation.
     
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  19. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    For years I was buying the new beers all the time, but lately I've been sticking to the ones I love because it's what I crave. I've found that if I buy a different beer other than what I'm craving, then I'm typical disappointed in it even if its a good beer. But the ones I crave are so many that its still a variety, it's not like I'm drinking the same IPA every day.
    When I go somewhere new, I like to try whatever is local to the place rather than buy what I know is great just for the thrill of getting something new that I can't get back home.
     
  20. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Haha, love the philosophical references. The idea of using beer to demonstrate how imperfect is the quest for finding an absolute of quality based on the ephemeral subjectivity of perception is both ridiculous and excellent.
     
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