Lagers versus Ales

A buddy of mine corrected me because I thought there were other categories besides Lagers and Ales . Either way I'll go with Ales for the time being!

 

you must be drunk specially since I've never heard of a barrel aged lager why not because ales have more flavor and barrels are expensive thats why not not saying lagers suck just saying ales always have more flavor but maybe some people think less flavor is a good thing.

 

I'm serious. Could you please use some fucking punctuation?

 

No. They are "top-fermented" which has only been synonymous with "Ale" for a short time, and only here in the U.S.

Read over this blog post for deeper research and discussion.

 

So, because you've never heard of them, they don't exist?

Oh, and they do. Now you've heard.

 

I understand all that, but it doesn't answer my question -- I wonder how an Alt (which isn't one of those beers that was designed for legal circumvention, if I recall correctly) or Kölsch might taste without the lagering.

 

ok even if your right how come breweries make so much more and many different kinds of ale than lager I think ale tastes better

 

Since Koelsch yeast tends to be low flocculation, the beers do tend to taste slightly more estery (like many ales) before/without the lagering -- but in my experience the primary character of an unlagered Koelsch is (again, due to the yeast) distinctly sulfury.

 

You can't be serious with that nonesense[sic].

 

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/26520/79898

 

I can't believe I'm justifying this with an answer.

Breweries don't make more ales than lagers (I assume you're referring to micro-breweries, because there is MUCH more lager produced than ale overall) because you think it tastes better.

Ales require much less time and temperature control, which not only means much less upfront capital but also less energy to maintain. Lagers also tie up tanks for several weeks, whereas an ale on a commercial scale can ferment out in about a week. For a small business, time is money, especially when cash flow is prudent as to whether or not you stay open and can pay the bills.

Yes, ales tend to be favored more by the "craft beer drinker" as they tend to be more boldy flavored, and that's what a lot of craft beer enthusiasts are after. This is a happy coincidence for a new brewery trying to stay afloat, but that doesn't mean that ales are better than lagers (or vice versa).

 

This is a baltic porter which means it may have used lager yeast but it may have used ale yeast instead. Even if it did use lager yeast baltic porters are different than most lagers. I've had http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/454/65809 and thought it was good but I I still think my favorite ales are better.

 

They do exist, I had one last night. And most breweries tend to make ales because they're "easier" and "cheaper" to make than lagers. I put that in quotes because it isn't necessarily the case, but lagers by their nature have to go thru a comparatively lengthy lagering process (thereby tying up resources) while ales can be pumped out fairly quickly

Also, please use punctuation. At least throw in a period every once in awhile

 

Don't worry about that, he's at least stopped bellyaching about Founders not releasing more CBS. I'll take lack of punctuation over constant whining about CBS.

 

What does barrel-aging have to do with the short-sighted "debate" of lagers vs ales anyway?

 

Jacks Abby BA Framinghammer

Now you've heard of one

 

In AMERICAN ENGLISH, ale == top-fermented.

It wasnt made up in recent years, the meaning evolved. Words do that.

And as soon as I saw this thread, I knew you would be here pushing your eurocentric view of word meaning. Ales dont have any hops, right?

 

Your second sentence contradicts your first.

The answer is Yes, but only in the US and only for a short time.

 

Baltic porters even when made with lager yeast (they can use ale yeast or at least thats what I've heard) belong in their own style of beer since there brewed differently than most lagers. Does anyone have an example of a Barrel aged lager that isn't a baltic porter?

 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=barrel+aged+doppelbock