Update on possible job at a brewery

I followed your earlier thread too, so I have some idea of the background. You may not like this.

You know you've asked the biggest beer fanboy contingent out there if you should do what they all want to do themselves even if they haven't thought it through completely or they actually know they couldn't possibly do it themselves, right? And they're all going to to say yesyesyes regardless of what it means to you in reality, right? The encouragement is generally benign, maybe slightly voyeuristic, but for the most part the short answers here mean you no harm even if they haven't considered everything that they should.

Goose, you're the only one that knows if this is the right thing for you. Sure you turned them down once before and maybe this is your last chance. At 25 and not planning on leaving the area though, I doubt that. Regardless, what if you turned them down before for a reason? Maybe one you can't even put your finger on. Do you trust your gut? One of those questions they may have asked is "where do you see yourself in 5 years?". Does this job fit into that plan? Does backing off of this right now even mean you couldn't try it again in 5 years if you still feel the same? They came back to you, correct? Makes me think this possibility is going to be there for a while if you need more time.

One of the very best comments in this thread suggests parlaying your expertise into a cellerman position--do you know how valuable that position is to a brewery, especially one that is trying to establish a reputation and grow?

Say you decide to go for it. Do you come from a line of horse traders at all? If so, you should consider that the terms they are offering are entirely one-sided. They want you to gradually soften the backbone of what you are doing now with no risk to them, giving them one variable day a week and expecting you to work around that. Then probably 2-4 days a week, at which point you really will have to make a decision between the two jobs. And the promise that full time brewery work will happen for you sometime in the next...year? You need to negotiate. You are the one taking the risk here, not them. Ask them to be more specific and to offer you a hard timeline with goals that you can achieve and recognizable steps upward that will result from them. They are asking you to drop your steady and just float around with them while they find a place for you. Tell them you need to see where that place is and you'll be happy to work toward it. It's your future. You seem to have the all chips here--don't be bluffed into thinking that your hand is no good.

Also, I've read a good bit of your content before. You deeply appreciate this brewery and your ability to have it as an enjoyable piece of your life at your own terms. What if this place did become your job? Would you still want to hang out there for pleasure? Even worse, if it ends up that you "hate the brewery thing" for one reason or another would it ruin your ability to enjoy the people and the place? Would you find yourself without a favorite hangout? I'm guessing there aren't a lot of options there.

Apologies for tending toward the morose, but I'm not the type to encourage you to do something just because I want to do it myself or, worse, because I'm just curious what will happen to you. If you feel strongly about this, I wish you all the luck in the world and I hope one day to sit in your place and get absolutely pissed on the wonderful beers that you've made. Cheers Goose.

 

story of a girl brewer at Three Floyds. working very well for her. Go for it.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/...ack-unicorn-inside-three-floyds-brewerys.html

 

I work at the best beer bar in my area, and it was pretty much the right job at the right time for me. If that's your case then there's no reason to not at least try it, you're still really young. The hours can be really long and tedious sometimes, with a lot of thankless dirty work and the occasional terrible customers but despite all that doing what you love is its own reward. I wish I was in your shoes lol, but I'm gonna get my masters in brewing in 2 years and hopefully jump up the ladder a bit As far as being a woman in the industry, you might be in the minority but we've only been open 9 months and there seem to be more women coming in every day with an open mind to craft. Otherwise just show them you can work as hard or better and no one can doubt your passion. Good luck, cheers!

 

yolo

 

Given your passion for beer and the experience you have doing "real work", I think you will be just fine. I've done the job you're about to do, at several breweries/brewpubs. It's a lot of hard work, not really fun work (but let's be honest, you've got to put in your time before you get to do the actual brewing/ "fun" work.) However, most of the time, the people you work with are awesome, there is down time where you do get to have fun (drink beer) and at the end of the day, even if all you did for 8 hours was clean kegs, put bottles on a conveyor belt, or six-pack rings on fresh cans of IPA Bottom line, you can be proud that you help make something that matters to you.

If you really get up in the morning and sigh just knowing you have to go to work, with little interest in what you're doing, then you should definitely be doing something else. In regards to what it's like being a woman in the brewing industry, I can't help you, nor can I offer any info as I have yet to work in a brewery where a woman was part of the labor side of the business. Chances are high that it will be fine, I don't think they wouldn't have offered you the job if they thought you couldn't do the work...

P.S. With your background in Chemistry, I'm willing to bet you will find "better" jobs in the brewing industry as opposed to the "bitch work".

 

Why was I not surprised to see she had a fair share of tattoos...good for her but wow that article was pretty lame.

 

Do what you like, do it well, and no one will care what gender you are.

 

You have no kids, no debt and a supportive significant other. You've said this won't hurt your financial situation. I can see absolutely no reason you shouldn't give it a go. If you wait until life gets more complicated with kids and a mortgage, you'll never be able to try to follow your passion and you'll be stuck in the lab.

 

My advice... Don't call it "bitchwork"

 

In case you never get a second chance: don't be afraid!

And what if you do get a second chance?

You take it!

Good Luck & Cheers!

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I am following this as I am applying for a promotion at my own work and jmw made a good point. You mentioned in your previous thread, the brewer made you the top candidate because of your background in chemistry. How does the brewer plan to use your skills to ensure that you are happy and fulfilled in your daily work? You certainly won't stay long term unless you use are able to use your mind. Chemistry plays a big role in brewing beer and knowing this would be vital to your decision.

 

With the recent birth of our first child my wife and are in the process of willingly giving up more than a third of our combined income. We want to share in the stay at home parenting responsibilities so we will both most likely work part time. We are trading "stuff" the extra money would buy for family time. A no brainer to us. When we are old and grey we won't look back with regret that we drove an old Civic and didn't have cable, we'll treasure the time with our son.

If you choose to live simply, and it sounds like you do, you can easily afford to take chances like this. It seems like you two have your priorities straight and good heads on your shoulders. Worst case scenario is you quit after a year or two and fall back on your degree richer in experience even if a little poorer in your bank account.

Are likely to look back when you are old and grey and regret that?

 

You love beer, not cleaning kegs, bitchwork, dirtywork crapwork, whatever it is if it can take you to where you want to go and you don't have chains holding you back, take it.
Do not regret it twice, been there done that and now I'm tied with all the chains and I can't get out, you can.

 

OP, I'm in a similar situation. I've gotten an offer from a cycling tourism company for the opportunity to do something I love and really help grow the business. It seems awesome, except the offer's low. Real low. Not meeting material needs low. I'm trying to negotiate and see if I can get the basics met and then I'd probably be willing to take a chance on the rest.

If your needs are being met and your boyfriend is behind you, definitely go for it.

 

Sounds good until your boyfriend dumps you, then you are on your own with just a part time job.

 

Go for it and take the jump. It'll be worth it and you'll be happy. Get out while you can and do it.

 

Get on your knees, woman and scrub those kegs. Sorry, I kid I kid.

 

#yolo #firstworldbeerprobz #plzmurdermyface

 

When you don't at least try something that you want to do when you're young, you regret it the rest of your life since as you grow older, it will be even more difficult to take action if the opportunity presents itself again.

 

You had your answer before you wrote this update. You had your answer before you posted the original thread for that matter.

Follow your dream or be a fucking chump like everyone else.