I could use a little help...

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by IrishHockey, May 9, 2013.

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  1. IrishHockey

    IrishHockey Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Indiana

    Ok, I brewed my first beer. After brewing and cooling it down I forgot to take the hydrometer reading. It's currently at day 5 and the bubbles on the airlock have slowed to about 14 per minute. The recipe called for 5-7 days in the primary. Should I move it to the secondary now or wait until day 7?
    Thanks
     
  2. IPeteA91

    IPeteA91 Initiate (0) Nov 10, 2012 Texas

    wait for sure, I leave most everything in the primary for two weeks, you risk diacetyl if you pull it too early.
     
  3. Mfedonczak

    Mfedonczak Initiate (0) Aug 18, 2008 Texas

    You should leave it in primary for 3 weeks total and then bottle it. Generally speaking most beers don't need a secondary. Unfortunately many kits have poor/outdated directions in them.
     
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  4. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    What's the obsession with air-lock bubbling rate?
    Does it come from some kiind of hot-trub time machine?
     
  5. IrishHockey

    IrishHockey Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Indiana

    Damn, so I bought a kit with a secondary for nothing then. Ok, next question, I was gonna add the dry hops to the secondary, should I just add them to the primary then? Also, I don't have a thief, should I put the hydrometer into the fermenter?
     
  6. Mfedonczak

    Mfedonczak Initiate (0) Aug 18, 2008 Texas

    I usually dry hop in primary after two weeks. I would just go ahead and get the thief while you are waiting for the beer to finish.
     
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  7. IrishHockey

    IrishHockey Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Indiana

    No obsession, just noticed it slowed down. I was wondering if I should move it to the secondary, which was answered.
     
  8. IrishHockey

    IrishHockey Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Indiana

    Thank you!
     
  9. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Many new brewers report their bubbling rate as if it means anything.

    Just wondering aloud; where does this notion about the importance of bubbling rate come from b/c it's meaningless.
     
  10. Mfedonczak

    Mfedonczak Initiate (0) Aug 18, 2008 Texas

    I believe it is from many recipe kit instructions and older homebrewing information. Most new brewers are going to assume that airlock activity = fermentation activity because they don't have the experience to know otherwise.
     
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  11. IrishHockey

    IrishHockey Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Indiana

    The notion came from a post I was reading. I did a search to find the answer I was looking for, and in there, the OP was talking about his bubble rate and how many days it had been bubbling.
    It's not something I would have cared about until I saw that post. On top of that, I stated the recipe called for the wort to be in the primary for 5-7 days. The slowing of the bubbles and the instructions got me wondering. Hope that clears it up for you and you can ponder it no more.
     
  12. Genuine

    Genuine Maven (1,347) May 7, 2009 Connecticut

    I never secondary, I keep it in primary 3-4 weeks and then keg. Once I put it in the fermenter, I try not to open it up again till I need to keg. Just let the beer ferment and do its thing.
     
  13. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    </cleared up></pondering>
     
  14. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    YES :slight_smile:
     
  15. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    OP: skip secondary, let your beer go in primary for 3 weeks. Take 2 gravity readings and make sure they're 3 days apart. If you get the same gravity reading both times, you're done and you should bottle.

    <we're going to start copying and pasting this tonight>

    And don't you dare post back in two weeks wondering why your bottles haven't carbed yet. Slow down, turbo. :slight_smile:
     
  16. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    No necessarily. Secondaries are great for fruit additions and bulk aging of big beers that could use a bit more time before packaging. Alse, I'm assuming that the secondary in question is a 5gal carboy, which works well for fermenting smaller batches when your bucket is already occupied.
     
  17. KS1297

    KS1297 Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2013 Wisconsin

    surely it means something
     
  18. GeckoPunk

    GeckoPunk Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2012 Connecticut

    You beat me to the punch... I love my secondary.

    OP, if you still feel like you "bought a kit with a secondary for nothing then.", I'll be more than happy to take it off your hands. it'll free up my other carboys while I brew a barleywine or something strong for the Holiday seasons...
     
  19. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Maybe not "for nothing" but probably not for most beers. I use a secondary with sour beers and fruit beers, but I don't brew these much. You can also use it as a primary so you can have multiple batches going at once!

    You can put a sanitized hydrometer into a fermenter to check gravity. Just be careful not to break it. There have been stories... If you have a bucket fermenter, you can do what I do and sanitize a measuring cup and scoop out about 40-50 mL of beer, depending on the volume of your hydrometer tube. And by alll means taste your hydrometer sample. Your taste buds give you info about whether the beer is ready to package; the hydrometer just tells you whether the yeast stopped making alcohol.
     
  20. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    One comment here: bubbling is not "meaningless". sugar -> alcohol + CO2. In a sealed fermenter, airlock bubbling certainly indicates primary fermentation! I have never made a batch that didn't bubble. To your point however, bubbling does not indicate secondary fermentation (ie conditioning), and a better indication of primary fermentation is a gravity measurement.
     
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