Verticals... what's your excuse?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by hey5hitgoose, Jun 1, 2013.

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  1. hey5hitgoose

    hey5hitgoose Pundit (754) Feb 28, 2013 Illinois
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    Is it the accomplished sense of having every year for sake of collecting or the aesthetic value of seeing every different color wax in your cellar, etc? What is it? At some point you are going to want to drink one of those and then be out of one in the set and completely revert back to not having that vertical if for the sake is simply, "collection"*. If so, why bother? At what point does it end?

    * unless of course you want to do a "vertical" tasting... but at which point the next years bottle will come out and then you start over. Not to mention, when you do that 6 year vertical tasting, you will be completely out of all those beers all at one time instead of doing a couple year apart comparison... in which case you are back to the original problem of not having the complete set, so why bother working towards a vertical to begin with?

    Just curious as to everyones thoughts on this! Cheers
     
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  2. dmeadows

    dmeadows Initiate (0) Aug 6, 2002 New York

    I always thought the "point" of a vertical was to do a "vertical" tasting. After all, beer is for drinking not collecting.
     
  3. GreenCoffee

    GreenCoffee Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2012 Illinois

    I suppose you could have multiple beers from the same year to solve this issue.
     
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  4. smartassboiler

    smartassboiler Pooh-Bah (2,518) Apr 9, 2012 Illinois
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    If a beer is good for aging, like Dark Lord, it's a good indicator to know how long until it reaches optimal flavor. It's not an exact science due to yearly variations, but it's good enough for me. For instance I liked 2010 and back, so I plan to age my 2013 at least 4 years.
     
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  5. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Grand Pooh-Bah (4,516) Oct 13, 2007 Wisconsin
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    Buy a case, drink one every 6 months, buy another case the following year, drink a bottle from both vintages every 6 months, buy another case following the following year, drink a bottle from the three vintages every 6 months, buy another case following the following of the following year, drink a bottle from the four vintages every 6 months. Etc etc, etc....
     
  6. nsheehan

    nsheehan Savant (1,206) Jul 3, 2011 Texas
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    I'm just starting to cellar, but I have multiple beers from a year if I plan to cellar or do a vertical. For me it's not about collecting or aesthetics. I would like to see how beers age with time, and have a nice vertical to share. For example, I just bought eight NC Old Stock ale 2013, and will save at least four for the next 1-6 years. I also have a couple Sophie and Matilda 2013, among other things.

    I fall 100% into your asterisk. I think most BAs will fall into the asterisk category of wanting to do vertical tastings. I haven't done a vertical yet, but I imagine it might be hard to part with the beers you've raised like your own children for 6 years or so. I obviously don't have children :grinning:

    I see you're getting at a point I've been thinking about. Our hobby is with consumables. People who collect coins, or whose hobby is biking, spend their money on collectible or functional items that retain their value. Beer, unfortunately, does not leave the body how it entered (delicious beer). Makes it hard to justify spending big bucks on a single bomber, and harder for others (e.g. my GF) to understand. But I don't want to thread jack, I'll just leave this here, for now.
     
  7. hey5hitgoose

    hey5hitgoose Pundit (754) Feb 28, 2013 Illinois
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    I only ask because I used to do the vertical thing religiously and I realized the o ly reason I get these beers is to drink them and if I really want to get a vintage of something for reference I can always just trade for a previous vintage or hope that a ba buddy would be willing to add as part of a bottle share. I just hate seeing bottles sit around when I have them simply for the purpose of sharing with friends and enjoying! I appreciate all the responses so far!
     
  8. Lledd

    Lledd Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2013 Massachusetts

    I think it comes down to the whole "You can't have your beer and drink it too" idea. I got my hands on a single bottle of cherry rye...now what?
     
  9. fritts211

    fritts211 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2011 Tennessee

    I understand the concept of verticals, but they've never really interested me. Then again, I sometimes feel like I'm a broken toy on beer advocate misfit island.
     
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  10. fredmugs

    fredmugs Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2012 Indiana

    Because when I say I had a 09 - 12 Dark Lord and a 08 - 12 Abyss on the same night my friends are really impressed.
     
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  11. thegodfather2701

    thegodfather2701 Savant (1,125) Nov 3, 2005 North Carolina

    I plan on doing a 10 year vertical of Stone IRS from 2009-2019 just for the sake of doing it. I don't really care if the bottle(s) are past their prime, I just made it a goal, have stuck with it, and I am excited to enjoy the actual event.
     
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  12. dmeadows

    dmeadows Initiate (0) Aug 6, 2002 New York

    We did a 2000-2010 a couple of years ago and are preparing our livers for a 2001-2013 Old Guardian vertical.
     
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  13. beerinNV

    beerinNV Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2012 Nevada

    I like to horde them in my closet next to my Pokeman cards
     
  14. djsmith1174

    djsmith1174 Savant (1,015) Aug 21, 2005 Minnesota


    The Old Guardian will be really interesting. Look forward to hearing about it.
     
  15. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    You are munging together collecting and doing tastings. Weyerbacher here in PA does two beers that are both sold on their own and aged in Bourbon Barrels. For both of those beers (Old Heathen and Blithering Idiot) I've also purchased the Bourbon Barrel aged version (Heresy and Insanity). Having done this 3 years in a row I was able to organize two separate tasting eveings in which a small group of us did side-by-side verticals to develop a better understanding of the effects of bottle aging and the effects of Bourbon Barrel aging.

    This was enjoyed by all involved and didn't put any kind of a hole in any collection since the whole point of acquiring the beers was to do the tasing sessions, not to build a collection. The tastings required some advance planning but now that both of the tastings are done I can acquire the beers in the same pattern again, or not, with no sense of loss or destruction of a vertical/side-by-side tasting.
     
  16. justin_nj

    justin_nj Initiate (0) May 31, 2013 New Jersey

    Yup yup, and same here, I decided to bring mine to a bottle share next month. Gotta share the love.
     
  17. thegodfather2701

    thegodfather2701 Savant (1,125) Nov 3, 2005 North Carolina

    That sounds awesome. How did the 7-10 year old beer hold up?
     
  18. IPAkindaguy

    IPAkindaguy Initiate (0) Aug 20, 2010 Florida

    Couple of reasons for me with my stone RIS vert. One, the fun of hunting down each year with trades and beer shopping. Two, Stone is one of favorite breweries so its cool to have a vert from them. Lastly, drinking them and see the difference and how each has changed. Still hunting down 07 and prior :wink:
     
  19. harrymel

    harrymel Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2010 Washington

    At this point the excuse is I haven't gotten around to drinking them.

    I'm finding more and more that verticals are a waste of time in my opinion. Mostly a novelty.
     
  20. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    The main reason I have verticals is that there are beers that I want to age that come out yearly. So I have verticals of them just because I buy them every year.

    Drinking a vertical in a sitting is just something that's fun to do at a tasting. Like having a blind style comparison, or whatever, having a theme can be fun.
     
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