Low bottle count beers are all the rage

You should start a new thread to complain about it.

 

I was about to say, I've never seen SpeedwayJim or GrumpyOldTroll post a thread titled "Why are all you idiots drinking cheap shelf beers?"

I seriously don't get the amount of caring people do about what other people do with their money/time.

 

Haters gonna hate.

 

Please tell me you cross-multiplied and solved for x.

 

It's the fantastic amount of money compared to what your dad spent on beer. He drank black label - you drink from all over the world. Progerss.

 

I remember my first day.

 

I think people dropping $50 on a bottle of beer does impact those individuals that don't drop $50 on a bottle of beer. It tells the craft companies, stores, middle men that folks are willing to pay that type of money for beer that, more than likely isn't proportionately more expensive to make nor proportionately tastier (which is difficult to measure obviously). In other words, if these folks laying $30 for a bottle of Fruet recognized they could have other beers of similar quality for less money then the ever increasing price of beers may clam down a bit.

I dunno, maybe I am just shooting in the dark here, but it seems like what others are willing to pay for a product will influence what folks not willing to pay the same premium ultimately have to pay.

 

Most of the people paying 30$ Fruet are well aware of other, cheaper, "better" old ales and most likely are just buying Fruet because.... they want to try Fruet. And who's to say that Fruet won't end up being your favorite old ale? Maybe it totally ends up being worth the clams for that person.

Limited/low production/experimental brews from a big name brewery (not to mention The Bruery, whose "shelf" beers are expensive enough as it is) are always going to be more dough, no matter what way you look at it. The higher prices of Fruet, Coton, Bois, etc., have not changed the prices of Hottenroth, Saison Rue, Trade Winds, etc., so if you're like the OP and other people buying rare/limited/sour beers gets your panties in a bunch, the cost of those special beers shouldn't matter to you anyway, since you see no point in buying them. The cost of limited release beers doesn't affect regular production beer price whatsoever.

 

You are awesome, sir.

 

I think this is a shopping psychology thing....people want it because they can't have it.

I heard that there was this beer that a brewery didn't release....people wanted it soooo damn badly because of that...

 

Slaters gonna slate.

 

Mesmerizing.

 

While I don't see a problem with ultra expensive rare beer, I also think it's important that people drink more than just the rarities. If you stop drinking the simpler stuff (can still be amazing beer, albeit more common), you lose appreciation for the best of the best.

Do it for your palate. Do it for your future. Most of all, do it for your wallet.

 

Relax. Have a beer. Preferably an Upright Sole Composition bottle that's #2 of #121.

 

What shelf beer compares to bois or fruet? I can't really think of any beers available on the shelf that have the taste profile of these beers.

 

Capitalist ramble start:

I used substitute, instead of quality, because quality is too subjective.

It is true, that people paying more for certain beers affects people that are not willing to pay that much for the beer because the price can stay that high. If enough people are willing to pay a price for a beer, it is priced correctly, and the price won't go lower. If there aren't enough people willing to pay the price for whatever reason (cheaper substitutes) and depending on the price of production, they can either lower the price, cut production, or stop making it.

I think a lot of people complain because they want to buy certain products, but they are not willing to pay the premium. If there are indeed substitutes for similar beers, then why do these people care. If they are complaining, then other beers probably aren't valid substitutes for this particular beer. If there are valid substitutes available, but people don't know about it, the makers need to do a better job of selling their beer with possibly better marketing. The in demand beer maker's marketing has gone to good use, but this might be one of the reasons the price is higher.

I think there is a general BA mentality right now that everyone must try everything. This especially pours into the barrel aged, sours, and specialty beers because they are more unique. More unique means there is less likely to be a substitute. Therefor the demand is higher. In general these these beers cost more to produce and can be limited by resources out of a breweries control, therefore supply tends to be lower.

In short.

 

they're all the rage.... if you have a very limited scope of what good beer is.

 

Exactly.

 

This, Though these are far from my favorite beers, and there are definitely shelf beers that I think are flat out better beers (especially for regular consumption), these are a unique experience. I view buying them more akin to Port or a Madeira, as they're really for the same kind of occasion.