Downsizing Homebrewing Operations -- Approaches?

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  1. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    If you were to move your homebrew operations from a fairly spacious house to a small metropolitan apartment, what changes would occur in your brewing?

    At the time when I am dreaming of increasing my homebrewing to 10 or 15 gallon batches, the vicissitudes of life have setteled in, and I may be faced with this possibility of moving back to apartment living. I might still be able to boil 5 gallon batches on a stove, which actually has been my modus operandi for 7 years or so, but it depends upon the stove. However, I see myself minimally losing temp control, kegging operations, and homebrew storage capacity because I would no longer have a cold cellar or space for extra refrigeration equipment.

    Wondering... how have some of you may have dealt with this sort of downsizing? Maybe there is a silver lining, or at least a band-aid, that I am overlooking.
     
  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    When I downsize to an assisted care facility, I will gladly go back to 5 gal batches, insist on a good gas stove, and pay someone to bottle/assist : )
     
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  3. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'd buy a gun and one bullet. One single bullet.

    I would buy a heat stick and rock an 8 gallon pot on top of a stove burner. If I had to I'd give up kegging and go back to bottling everything. I'd find milk crates behind C stores and use those for storing bottles. You'll need a large tupperware bin half full of water for keeping your temps pretty consistent. Buy a few 3 liter bottles of Faygo and drain pour them. Fill with water and freeze.

    Sorry to hear you have to give up some of the good stuff.
     
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  4. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Listening to a thing about Juggalos on NPR right now. Crazy coincidence!
     
  5. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    See if your local homebrew club can help out - maybe shared space, club brews, etc.

    I've stopped brewing for a couple of years several times. Shit happens; it's not the end of the world... better days ahead.
     
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  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'd be glad to hang on to your gear. I'll be up for some more New Glarus too :slight_smile:
     
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  7. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    What size apartment are you moving into and do you have a roommate/significant other? I have been brewing in small apartments (550 sqft and 750 sqft) living with my girlfriend (currently fiancee) for the last 2 years. I do all grain brewing and keg and have temperature control. I had previously been brewing at my parents house with an outdoor setup and tons of space (no kegging setup and no temp control). If there is a will there is a way.

    Anything specific you need help with I am more than happy to give some advice.

    Edit: I am hoping to buy a home in 2 years and can not wait to be able to expand past what I currently have.
     
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  8. SenorHops

    SenorHops Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Rhode Island

    5.5 gallon batches, stove top, partial mash, ferment in cool brew fermenter cooler. Bottling or kegging is up to you. It's not the end of the world. Good luck!
     
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  9. DrewBeechum

    DrewBeechum Pooh-Bah (1,954) Mar 15, 2003 California
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    Find Mary Izett's article in Zymurgy either last year or year before about apartment brewing. She's been doing crazy mad fermentation and brewing in a 500 sq. ft apartment in Brooklyn.
     
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  10. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    When this happened to me, I just found a place to brew outside. There will invariably be a common area to set up in. You just have to scare the shit out of the nosy kids right away. Dumping the mash tun into the dumpster can be a skanky experience but you do what you have to do.
     
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  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Thanks guys, I knew I could count on you for understanding and support! :wink:
     
  12. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    The move is still hypothetical at this point, because I have only made it past step 1 of a 2-step job interview process.

    I'd be in the NYC area, living single (sad part of story deleted - this is a homebrewing forum). The apartment would likely be either a studio or 1 bedroom, so something in the 400-700 sq ft range, I would guess.

    I'll probably leave a lot of the homebrewing gear in storage in Wisconsin. Initially, I'd feel the need to scale back homebrewing until I sort out the new living arrangements, job responsibilities, and financing. (Something tells me living in NYC may be more financially demanding than rural, northern Wisconsin).

    Gradually, I'd work homebrewing back into my activities, perhaps locating a club (good suggestion, skivtjerry).
    I seem to recall the Zymurgy article on apartment brewing, so I'll dig through the stack of Zymurgy mags for it (thanks for the reminder, drewbage).

    And for those of you who said "if there's a will, there's a way," "it's not the end of the world," etc -- I agree. I'll figure it out.

    One silver lining: regardless of whether it takes me time to get back to homebrewing, there would be craftbrews galore in NYC that I do not see in northern WI. New Glarus would be missed, but new discoveries await.
     
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  13. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    protip: move to suburbs around nyc.. if that interests you at all bm me and i would have no problem aiding with you search... lots of hidden costs you dont think of when living in the 5 boros
     
  14. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    Good point. Except for the refinery wasteland and a few ugly spots near Philly that don't matter to the OP, NJ is a pretty nice place; likewise for CT and the lower Hudson Valley of NY. Some far-flung areas have pretty good train service into the city (http://new.mta.info/mnr).
     
  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I'm going with 1 gallon or 3 gallon BIAB batches. It'd be easy as hell, and you wouldn't have to worry about boiling a large volume of water.
     
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  16. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Hey, careful! I grew up around some ugly spots near Philly!

    The job would be in the southern part of Westchester County (New Rochelle), so not in the 5 boroughs. So I'd probably follow OddNotion's advice by staying to the north of the Bronx.
     
  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I found the article that drewbage referenced and the author primarily uses a 3 gallon BIAB approach. No reason why that couldn't work for me. I never technically did BIAB before, but I have dealt with a couple stuck sparges by transfering the mash to a strainer bag.
     
  18. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    When I was brewing from an army barracks room*, I had a very clever system of storing everything in the closet to where not only did it fit, but it didn't look like a bunch of brewing equipment. :sunglasses:

    So you'll have to consolidate items into smaller spaces, increase organization, and be creative.

    Funny, but I noticed that I became less organized and more chaotic when I moved into a MUCH larger space. Part of that is the fact it's not just me moving stuff around now tho. We're working on the storage system along with the upgrades. The man cave/breuhaus is about 3/4 complete, it's got a roof, floor, stud walls, and two giant windows, it just needs the siding, and then to obtain another air conditioner (we already have the insulation). Oh, and to run the new water lines, re-do the electrical lines (including a new bigger breaker and splitting the existing circuit into two circuits), also need a shit-ton of hardware for the brewing system that I don't have yet, plus, plus... Damn, I still have a lot of work to do!** :grimacing:

    *BTW if you are in the army I don't recommend doing this. I just got away with it for various reasons, including not getting in trouble, and of course slipping a few homebrews here and there to a few sergeants so that nobody would "know" about it, even tho everybody knew about it :rolling_eyes:

    **this should get done by the end of summer
     
  19. ventura78

    ventura78 Pundit (972) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

    You might consider co-brewing with someone that has the room to store everything. I co-brew, my brewing partner barely has enough room to store his empties. Our normal brew day consists of brewing an 18 gallon batch of a favorite and 6 gallons of something new, or one we don't need a lot of. We split equipment and supply costs, and its always a party when we brew or bottle.

    cheers
     
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  20. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    Looks like you may have more space than you're thinking. You can probably get a decent 2BR apartment (guess what you can do with the extra BR:grinning:) for a reasonable price.

    Let me know when you come up here for your first Heady Topper run!
     
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