Minority Owned Craft Breweries

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by broodog, Jul 13, 2013.

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  1. MinorThreat

    MinorThreat Maven (1,259) Apr 7, 2008 Nebraska

    I'm just laughing to myself thinking of being 17 years old with my Black Flag bars freshly inked with a dull guitar string. I was pretty sure that tattoo said everything that ever need to be said about me. Now my Black Flag bars share some space with an Otis Redding tattoo.
     
  2. BethanyB

    BethanyB Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2013 New York

    Specifically in America, it would be a good thing for more minorities to own more of anything. Because right now, institutional systems continue to make it so that their piece of the pie is disproportionally miniscule. Perpetuation of poverty leads to perpetuation of crime by minority populations, which leads to the perpetuation of stereotypes, and 'round and around it goes.

    Now, to say that more German, English and Belgian immigrants making more beer makes total sense...that to me sounds like you're saying that people from these countries have an innate, natural ability to make better beer. Like it's a skill that can't entirely be taught to a person of any race. But maybe I'm reading that incorrectly.

    Do a large amount of minorities want to be out there owning breweries? Probably not. But I'm willing to bet that that this has more to do with certain minority populations not having the luxury of being exposed to the entirety of "the beer world" than it does with certain cultures being incapable of taking an interest in the subject.
     
  3. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    That's just it, every time I open a beer I see my "poison free" tattoo and smile. I've thought about hop bine tattoos, but I think the phase in my life where I have to fly those flags that "define" my personality is past. Still proud of my working class work though.
     
  4. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I think your really trying to make a stretch here..
     
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  5. BethanyB

    BethanyB Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2013 New York

    My Master's degree is in public administration and nonprofit management with a focus on increased multicultural representation in today's economy, so I truly do have a lot of research to back up the statements I made. I do know that some realities can sound like a stretch if you're not faced with them, however.
     
  6. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Not to totally bust your bubble, but, like most people, you're buying what the man is selling. Whaat we are faced with here is class warfare and not a true race issue. Go to Flint michigan and tell me all those broke WHITE people are sharing in racial inequity. The first thing I would do is divide an conquer my enemies. If I can get the poor white people to distrust poor blacks and hispanics and get blacks and hispanics to distrust each other, well I'm going to laugh all the way to the bank. Thiis issue crosses the lines of race and religion, the only constant in it is money. Yes, there are more minorities living below the poverty level in the world, but since the "good ol' boy" network of the racist 50's aand 60's has been systematically dismantled more and more white families have succumed to poverty and gotten defeated by the "system".
    this all being said, yes, it would be better to see more minorities owning breweries, or any business for that matter. It would be better to see many americans following their own dreams and creating more job. Opportunities for themselves. But in todays awkward economic climate it's hard to let go of the sure thing paycheck and jump intothe unknown.
     
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  7. GreenCoffee

    GreenCoffee Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2012 Illinois

    Nothing gets white dudes upset like someone bringing up situations where white dudes are overrepresented.
     
  8. cerp66

    cerp66 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2007 South Carolina


    But then the Democrats would have nothing to run on.
     
  9. BethanyB

    BethanyB Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2013 New York

    I'm not sure what bubble of mine you busted...I don't think you quite get what I'm saying. But from reading the above, I think we might be speaking different languages altogether.
     
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  10. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    On the shelf or on the table, beer is an open invitation to a pleasant experience. I think it was the pilsner urquell fellow in their anthem video who said in an accent; "We creating this liquid to enjoy all people and great happenings" . . .That's beer. It's ethnic, it's local, it's traditional and it belongs to everyone.



    Am I a minority on a beer website because I am a girl; or can you not really tell anything about me because my avatar has freed me with the ability to define myself? Anywhere you go you will find people who don't like YOU for this or that reason. That's how people are and most of the time it's themselves they are looking for and themselves they dislike when they find it.
     
  11. jncastillo87

    jncastillo87 Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2013 Texas

    Horse shit thread
     
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  12. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2012 Florida

    How many white players are in the NBA? This is a travesty.

    (yes, sarcasm)

    These discussions are ridiculous.
     
  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Bm me if you'd like. The language I'm speaking is financial inequality being a reason why we don't see more business start ups in general.
     
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  14. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Nope, you are right, that is what I'm saying, but not how you think you mean it.

    Brewery ownership goes to those who know how to do it, especially those who come from fine beer traditions. Why wouldn't I prefer a person who comes from a fine beer tradition? I am not saying he/she would be better than Americans. I am saying that all Americans' chances of owning or being head brewer at a brewery are based on one thing only: do they know beer well enough to produce it profitably as a company. That is it.

    So unless you have some inside info that minority Americans know more about brewing and fine beer than non-minority Americans, I stand by my words. And BTW the word minority was used by you, I try to avoid that word, I like to think of us all as Americans.
     
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  15. bonercity

    bonercity Initiate (0) Feb 11, 2012 California

    Really? Who cares? There is no over reaching conspiracy to keep minorities out of brewing. Part of being in a multicultural environment is that these cultures are different. It could be that proportionally white people are more interested in home brewing and end up opening more breweries or working the brewing industry as a result. With the increasing popularity of good beer it seems like only a matter of time before more people from different cultural backgrounds start getting interested and doing their own thing with it. If it was meant to be, it will happen naturally.
     
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  16. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2012 Florida

    Why'd you capitalize "Master's", but not "degree" [​IMG]

    Hey, you're the one that brought up "speaking different languages" :wink:
     
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  17. Derranged

    Derranged Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 New York

    The Harlem Brewing Company.
     
  18. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer Initiate (0) May 10, 2012 Illinois

    The proportion of caucasians born into a terrible situation (terrible public schools, gangs, violence a daily occurence, very poor) compared to minorities has got to be staggering. This is how the gentrification thing works.... an area gets SO BAD that all of the property value plummets; rich real estate people come in, and buy it all up. They "gentrify"the area over a period of 8-15 years, multiplying the value of the vast blocks of property they bought tenfold... Then they sell it. The people who cant afford to live in the gentrified neighborhoods move to new areas, and the process starts all over again. Pretttttty sweet.
     
  19. BethanyB

    BethanyB Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2013 New York

    Oh, good grief. I don't think you read my post very carefully. Oh well. Maybe you'll read this carefully: Minority is not a dirty word. I think someone earlier said that if we ignore a problem it's not going to go away. So yeah, pretending there is no such thing as a minority is really just maintaining the problem. Also, "minority" was first used by the OP. I didn't just pull that word out of nowhere. That's what this whole thread is about. Maybe you're in the wrong thread?
     
  20. JamesShoemaker

    JamesShoemaker Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2012 Michigan

    Hear hear. Or even better as human beings.
     
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