BA Mexican Cake

Sometimes a beer obliterates your taste buds with ecstasy. I long for that day.

 

I guess I'm clueless and don't have enough trades under my belt. I don't think most people have a clue as to how hard it might be to score a complete set with the bottle count of each variant being so low and those who got tickets only being able to get two of each variant. And before I get thrown to the homer side, let me say at this time I don't plan on trading my allotment at all. In all likely hood I will drink one set pretty soon and then open another down the road with friends that didn't get to go to the release. FYI, I'm in NC but my favorite beer is Zombie Dust! My questions is why can these beers not be as good as BADL, BA Hunuahpu, etc. just because they are from the southeast? That's just dumb! I don't know how good they are as I have yet to try them but take a look at all the reviews for the regular Mexican Cake. Decent huh? And can you believe they are quite a few that are not from SC. I guess I'm still a newbie at this trading game cause I just don't get it.

 

not every beer can trade for established whales a day after the release. as has been the case lately, no one cared about westbrook (not saying they're not a good/great/amazing brewery, haven't had anything from them) until they released a BA additive stout that's getting straight 5s from every homer and every person with bottles for trade.

people asking the world for brand new releases from breweries with no pedigree while simultaneously hyping the beer with ratings and talking about how rare it is is obnoxious.

09 black tuesday, rare, AB huna, vanilla DL, piapt and BA piapt, and BA papier are all big time beers that change hands very rarely. this person is asking for multiple beers from that list with a set of beers that was released for the first time yesterday. he would be likely to get one of those bottles and he would probably have to add.

as is always the case with middle of nowhere breweries releasing BA stouts, everyone with a vested interest in the value of the bottles do their best to hype them. it's always "WHY CANT THESE BEERS BE AS GOOD AS THESE WHALES JUST BECAUSE THE BREWERY IS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE/UNKNOWN!!!?!?!?!?"

this is probably the worst case yet, at least the midwesterners let the hype build on it's own with KBBS and let the BA dark lords come to them instead of posting ridiculous ISOs.

 

"not every beer can trade for established whales a day after the release. as has been the case lately, no one cared about westbrook (not saying they're not a good/great/amazing brewery, haven't had anything from them) until they released a BA additive stout that's getting straight 5s from every homer and every person with bottles for trade."

Mexican Cake has traded pretty well for 2 years now.



"people asking the world for brand new releases from breweries with no pedigree while simultaneously hyping the beer with ratings and talking about how rare it is is obnoxious."

How many people outside the few states where people came in for the release would have had a chance to review it yet?


"09 black tuesday, rare, AB huna, vanilla DL, piapt and BA piapt, and BA papier are all big time beers that change hands very rarely. this person is asking for multiple beers from that list with a set of beers that was released for the first time yesterday. he would be likely to get one of those bottles and he would probably have to add."

How many of the beers you named above had ISO/FT's posted to similar degrees when they were first released?


as is always the case with middle of nowhere breweries releasing BA stouts, everyone with a vested interest in the value of the bottles do their best to hype them. it's always "WHY CANT THESE BEERS BE AS GOOD AS THESE WHALES JUST BECAUSE THE BREWERY IS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE/UNKNOWN!!!?!?!?!?"

Again, I'm clueless...I don't understand why a beer brewed in Egypt can't be as good as something from a brewery in MI, CA, VT or SC for that matter?


"this is probably the worst case yet, at least the midwesterners let the hype build on it's own with KBBS and let the BA dark lords come to them instead of posting ridiculous ISOs."

You really must have not paid to much attention to the ISO/FT's right after those releases!

 

The ISO/Ft right after new releases has been ridiculous for a while, and noone is saying the beer isn't/can't be great. But asking for certified wales before and after the immediate release is crazy.

 

the beers can be as good, but that isn't how whales work...they are whales because they are extremely difficult to attain. if there are 10 sets of mexican cake for trade on a forum at once then it isn't hard to attain and attempts to treat it as such is artificially inflating its value.

they wouldn't have a chance to review it, but that's not the point at all. the point is that every new beer that comes out isn't a perfect 5/5 like every homer batch of reviews says it is. overrating/reviewing things is a problem not limited to beer, but people who's video game rating scale ranges from 8-10 is benign compared to people giving perfect reviews to beers who's value they are particularly interested in.

i don't know how those beers traded when they were first released, they are mostly quite old (which is why they're hard to attain) and beer trading was probably quite a bit different back then .

yes, mexican cake trades "pretty well" in that it trades for other good beers, but KBS, heady, huna, etc are a far cry from AB huna and 09 black tuesday.

sorry for responding out of order.

 

I'm not gonna beat a dead horse here but, what it comes down to with these crazy ISO/FT offers (be it ISO or FT) is "Winning"!
For me ISO or FT...I take bottle count and $4$ into consideration. I know all traders weigh things differently when trading but bottle count and $4$ is pretty much concrete.

 

They are concrete but there is more to it. How desireable the beer is is a huge factor, hyping a beer to promote this is the issue with these new releases.

 

Cant the same be said for most all limited first time releases???

 

Nowadays it seems to be getting worse though.

 

Limited releases seem to occur more often now. At least that's what my bank account is telling me!

 

Haha. I remember reading similar comments 3 years ago.

 

It was a truth then, and it's a truth now. I look at it like a an exponential curve at this point, though. It was bad before, but the desire for every single beer is leading to an untenable push of people offering beer hand over fist to get the latest new release from Brewer X. Each crazy ISO leads to another and IMO, the whole system is going to crash at some point in the future because we are seeing the acceleration upwards.

By the way, can we get a ruling on this? Is mikeincharleston Mikesgroove? I know the guy works at the brewery, so it seems shady to me.

 

Mikeincharleston is definatly not mikesgroove!

 

MikeinCharleston is a great trader who has hooked me up multiple times. Please do not confuse him with any bad traders.

 

Noted.

 

Interesting, they only made 200ish BA MCs compared to figures for BADL variants and most people don't think a set of BA MC is worth a BADL?

 

I agree with you on the bottle count and $4$, though when it comes to something I really want, I am more than willing to go overkill just to get what Im looking for (see recent iso: brandy hunahpu and ab mex cake). Its ridiculous the offers you have to toss out just to get people to bite... all because of that next offer thats going to be bigger and better that they can count on

 

BA DL trades far more unreasonably than any beer I've seen on this forum in years, relative to its bottle count. It is the poster child for instawale nonsense; saying BA MC isn't landing them is a statement that it hasnt fallen victim to the great Midwest cult of misinformation.