I'm looking for a distinctive Irish red ale

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  1. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I've had probably a dozen red ales in my life and they're all starting to blend together. None of them stand out as being bad, most are really good, but nothing unique about the beer that would make me come back to it instead of another.

    Does anyone have a go to Irish red ale? If so, what makes it better than the rest?
     
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  2. RichD

    RichD Pooh-Bah (2,318) Mar 18, 2012 Rhode Island
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    I'm commenting so I can get alerted as well. The Irish red is a very underrated style and the accentuation of the caramel malts makes this style one of my favorites. I've had a few, but they were Samuel Adams Irish Red and Karl Strauss' Red Trolley. Both solid representations, but nothing that made me rethink the better things in life.

    Great post btw.
     
  3. ThomasAWilson2

    ThomasAWilson2 Zealot (631) Sep 23, 2012 Georgia

    I just had this same discussion a few weeks ago... Ended up falling in love with Lagunitas Lucky 13. Of course we all hear about Nugget Nectar (and rightfully so, the shxt is amazing) but not a very common style it seems. You won't be disappointed by Lucky 13. I have a can of Oskar Blues G'Knight, haven't opened it just yet though.
     
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  4. MaxOhle

    MaxOhle Initiate (0) Nov 10, 2012 Illinois

    Great Lakes Conways Irish Red Ale, not too big into the style, but I love this one.
     
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  5. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Nothing remotely Irish red about a single one of these. Zero in a bit.

    OP, it's a nebulous style and one that I'm only marginally convinced exists anywhere except in homebrew comps. Red ales are amber ales. You will not find any Irish red ales from Ireland though.
    If you want to try a really good amber/red ale that fits the 'Irish red' style guidelines and is not insanely hopped over so as to make it an off-color american IPA, search out Brian Boru by Three Floyds.
     
  6. honeynutoreos

    honeynutoreos Aspirant (229) Jul 23, 2013 Arizona

    o'hara makes a pretty good irish red, and i thing their stout is even better
     
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  7. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    There is some doubt as to whether Irish Red is a style in its own right as you say , rather it's just another bitter.If you accept this it opens up a mass of possibilities.
     
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  8. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    The plot thickens.
     
  9. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    :wink:

    Doesn't appear to be an export-only beer, either, since it's listed on their website as part of their regular line under the same name - O'hara's Irish Red

    (Not that I don't agree that it's a dubious "beer style"... but, then, so are many of them).
     
  10. BILF

    BILF Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2010 Israel

    O'hara's Irish Red is great.

    Although their Irish Pale Ale is actually an APA.

    Not sure what the Red is hopped with.
     
  11. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    About 90% are either made up or simple variations within existing styles.
    Back to so-called Irish Red , here's an Irish beer blog's take;
    http://www.beoir.org/index.php?opti...sh-red-paradox&catid=33:beoir-meets&Itemid=95
    I quote the last paragraph;
    The second proven thesis from the evening's tippling is that Irish Red is not a real beer style. On the night, nobody was confident about which was Smithwick's and which was Bass, even though one is supposedly an Irish "red ale" and the other a British "keg bitter". Kilkenny was easily spotted since it had a nitro head, but had John Smith's or Tetley's Smooth been in the mix, I think there would have been some contention. Likewise there was no way either craft beer was going to be mistaken for a mass-produced ale like Bass, but a quality British red keg ale -- Brewdog 5am Saint, for instance -- would, I believe, have muddied the water considerably. Until further tests are carried out, I think my hypothesis that "Irish Red" is simply keg bitter stands.
     
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  12. Swik

    Swik Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2012 Indiana

    Brian Boru by three floyds, being in Indiana I'd assume that'd be your best bet. Just like with all of three floyds they do stay true to the original style with their own twist.... Hops haha. It's not bad at all, makes for very easy drinking.
     
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  13. Dupage25

    Dupage25 Savant (1,044) Jul 4, 2013 Antarctica

    I've never understood the idea that Red Ale isn't a style. Having four different styles for beers that taste identical like stout (American stout, American porter, English stout, English porter) is pointless, but pretty much any red ale I can pick out from a proper pale or IPA. Mostly because to me they always taste like bitter, burnt bread or bagels.
     
  14. jlpred55

    jlpred55 Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2006 Iowa

    I do have to agree a bit that bitters and our shoe-horning of a style Irish Red Ales is tenuous. I do acknowledge that a lot of Irish red ales taste a lot like bitter with a slightly more of a dryish finish or maybe more carmel flavor. You can pretty much take a standard bitter recipe and lighly add some black malt or some more carmel and have an Irish red. They are pretty much the same thing and at times it is hard to tell them apart. Though I do think bitters should lean bitter verses the balance I think of when I drink an Irish red style.
     
  15. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    Irish Reds and Alts seem to be the most common "fake" styles over here in the states. Historical or not, I find that most beers labeled as alts are just random amber ales that lean on the dry side. Irish Reds tend to be the opposite and are usually just malty ambers.
    That said, I do like some of 'em! The Sam Adams Irish Red might not have any historical backing, but it's an easy drinking malt bomb of a beer that I enjoy.
     
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  16. checktherhyme

    checktherhyme Savant (1,036) Apr 8, 2008 Washington

    I couldnt agree more. And out of all the "Irish Red Ales" I have had, Sam Adams is my favorite. Love that beer on a brisk Fall day.
     
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  17. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    Admit it everyone. Finally. Irish beer is generally just terrible.Terrible.
    In other words, prime time the craft beer scene took a foothold and starts to shake things up like has happened in the the US, UK etc. Now that would be awesome.
     
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  18. Keepmywitbieraboutme

    Keepmywitbieraboutme Initiate (0) Apr 24, 2013 New York

    I try and I try and I try, but I always find myself going back to Harpoon Celtic Red. It just has that something that does it for Me.
     
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  19. ImperialStoat

    ImperialStoat Initiate (0) May 20, 2009 Ireland

    What?

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  20. Ispeakforthetrees

    Ispeakforthetrees Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2012 Colorado

    I enjoy Red Banshee from Fort Collins Brewery
     
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