What do I have here?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by jlordi12, Aug 12, 2013.

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  1. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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  2. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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  3. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Whatever you did wrong pales in comparison to what's going on in your carboy :wink:

    Some kinda pellicle action.
    Seen it myself on occasion over the years.
    Unless it's something you're trying to do...might could be related to sanitation.
     
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  4. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I wasn't trying to make a sour but if the beer is salvageable that would be cool
     
  5. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    You're rolling dice.
    Are you committed to 6-9 months of babysitting this accident?
     
  6. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    What are my options? Is there any way to determine what bug caused the pellicle?
     
  7. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    could be the dreaded drainpouricus aleicus :rolling_eyes:
     
  8. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    You have wild yeast playing with your domesticated yeast. The likely suspects are Brettanomyces, Lactobacillus, and/or Pediococcus. Here's a discussion on what's happening:
    http://www.homebrewtalk.com/wiki/index.php/Brettanomyces

    I have had the same thing happen to a brew and after a few days it cleared up completely, finished at predicted FG, and taste was normal. So it's possible you can recover from this. With the glass carboy this will be obvious and it can happen quickly. In my case, I kept 1 gallon in a jug and plan on giving it some time . . . just to see what will happen taste-wise.


     
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  9. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I see Orion the Hunter, the Seven Sisters, and Scorpio.
     
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  10. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Lmao
     
  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    What can I say? I got up last night hoping to see the Perseid meteor showers - it was a clear night, I saw some stars but was too sleepy and went back to bed before I saw anything streaking across the sky. So stars were on my brain when I woke up and surfed BA with my first cup of coffee.

    As for the beer, it looks interesting, and might be worth letting go for a while on the basis of visual entertainment.
     
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  12. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I'm definitely going to let it do its thing. Not only that but now I have my sour dedicated bucket.
     
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  13. cfrobrew

    cfrobrew Initiate (0) Oct 9, 2012 Texas

    It looks like something was dripping into that pellicle from the lid? Is that was made that sweet pattern?
     
  14. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    Looks like wild yeast. Also looks like you are at the end of fermentation, so I would let it ride. Had this been at the beginning I would not be so optimistic.
     
  15. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Possibly. But it would only have been sanitizer.
     
  16. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, I've been dry hopping for about 8 days(beer was done @1.01) I pulled a rock from the garden to weigh down the hop bag and gave it a quick starsan bath. Might not have been enough to sanitize it
     
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  17. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    Now the key piece of info surfaces: rock from the garden. Must be your bug source.
     
  18. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    You might want to invest in a few stainless steel nuts or weights or something for next time. This really isn't good practice.
    You're being very hopeful here in thinking this will just turn into a different but perfectly acceptable style and will be great. Either this completely unplanned sanitation-caused accident will turn into a beautiful sour and will launch you into a career of making these regularly, or it will become completely undrinkable and render most of the equipment that has touched it questionable. Spontaneous fermentations can happen beneficially sometimes, but I'm not betting on it myself.
    Those are separate colonies, not drips.
     
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  19. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    There's really no way to sanitize a garden rock. It's been sitting out there coated in microbe filled soil, probably got some manure fertilizer plus dog/cat/raccoon crap on it. Rocks have way too many pores that hold onto nasties. I supposed if you baked it at 500C for an hour or 3 it would be sterile, but a "quick starsan bath" ain't gonna do it. This beer probably has a 20% chance of being good so don't throw it out. But have a neighbor you don't like taste it when you think it's ready.
     
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