Do people save/store beer like wine?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by BeerdedBrandon, Aug 16, 2013.

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  1. BeerdedBrandon

    BeerdedBrandon Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2011 Wisconsin

    Hi, new to the forum... Do people save beer that they love for any length of time say in their basement or cooler? There are some that I love and once they are gone are hard to find again... so I would like to almost start a collection if this makes sense? Haha. Enjoying Monk's Cafe Flemish Sour Ale currently. Let me know what you think... cheers!
     
  2. UncleJimbo

    UncleJimbo Grand Pooh-Bah (3,771) Sep 11, 2002 Massachusetts
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  3. BurgeoningBrewhead

    BurgeoningBrewhead Initiate (0) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Yes, many stronger beer styles lend themselves very well to cellaring/aging. Usually bigger beers, such as imperial stouts, barleywines, and so on; although many more styles can be aged as well.
     
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  4. Frankinstiener

    Frankinstiener Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2009 Illinois

    Yes many beers can be aged. I prefer almost every style fresh but I may be in the minority when it comes to a few of them.
     
  5. dholway

    dholway Devotee (382) Jul 1, 2004 Massachusetts

    Don't believe these tricksters. The answer is no.
     
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  6. jwheeler87

    jwheeler87 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 Massachusetts

    Yes, many styles can be stored for a long period of time. Most are high ABV beers or beers with wild yeast strains and bacterias that will develop over time. Anything hop forward such as IPAs and Double IPAs are not the best candidate for cellaring since the hops, which are the showcased flavor, will drop off over time.
     
  7. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Basically only to brag about what they have, same as basement guitar player's "studio" or over-weight rich guy's shed of mtn and road bikes...

    got to compensate somehow....
     
  8. cookiequiz

    cookiequiz Savant (1,119) Apr 15, 2013 California

    Wait---you mean I don't have to do that for my wine too? Damnit what a waste of time.
     
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  9. willbm3

    willbm3 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2010 Massachusetts

    Some Mexican cellarmen actually have the best of both worlds: a cenote!
     
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  10. VegasBeerMan

    VegasBeerMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2007 Nevada

    FT: 2008 Abyss
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  11. GuinnessAtRogerWilco

    GuinnessAtRogerWilco Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2013 New Jersey

    I'm rather fortunate in that the place I live in is a split level with my bedroom half underground and with a walk-in closet with shelving. Makes for a great cellar to store RISs, Barleywines, Old Ales, etc. Even is Summer when it's 90+ degrees with 90%+ humidity, that rooms stays nice and cool with little light.
    Right now I've got 10 different limited and highly rated beers down there waiting for the right occasion. Hoping to add more to it.
     
  12. rmank

    rmank Savant (1,117) Mar 26, 2012 South Carolina

    Annnnnndddd welcome to your crash course in BA forums
     
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  13. Centennial

    Centennial Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2009 Vermont

    Woaa man, ten limited beers is far too many, and your thinking of adding more? That's crazy! You should drink what you have first before you decide to buy any more.
     
  14. Ivegotmule

    Ivegotmule Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2012 North Carolina

    I enjoy trying beers others have aged, friends or beer stores. But I don't buy lookin at beers.
     
  15. jedwards

    jedwards Initiate (0) Feb 3, 2009 California

    There are a few different things people do when storing beer that all kind of look the same from the outside.

    There's stashing beer to drink later -- a limited or seasonal beer that someone would like to drink out-of-season. They're not looking for the beer to change. If you want to do this, store it around 40 degrees F and drink within a year at the most. Don't bother with really hoppy stuff.

    There's hoarding beer, either to have a satisfying aesthetic response when you view your own collection or for trading/selling purposes. BA is generally unsympathetic to this practice (at least, in public).

    There's aging beer in order to alter it (not necessarily to improve it in any objective sense, but to turn it into a different beer that the ager may prefer). This falls into four broad categories: aging lambic, which is its own game and if you're doing it you probably already know what you're going for. Maturing beer in the 6-24 month timeframe -- to my palate, for example, many American wilds improve after a short bottling period. A number of American RISs also develop over this timeframe as hops flavors fade. There's aging beer for 2-5 years -- if someone describes a beer as "hot" and is hoping to reduce that impression of fusel alcohols, this is probably the timeframe they're looking at. Old ales and English barleywines develop their characteristic toffee/treacle notes in this timeframe. And there's cellaring beer for over 5 years -- at this point, the drinker hopefully likes the characteristic flavors brought on by oxidation, because they're going to start tasting them. Soy sauce becomes a more prominent component, particularly in darker beers. Leather, tobacco, and sherry/madeira flavors emerge. Some perceived tartness can occur regardless of the presence of microbes.

    My recommendation is always to follow your own palate -- people taste specific flavors differently and at different intensities, and reading reviews of aged beers isn't going to be informative unless you already know what you and don't like. Taste aged beers with a group so you can get different opinions (on that specific bottle -- age will amplify bottle variation) and see what others are tasting that you're not. If you like the idea of aging beer, find someone who will share a few bottles with you so you can find out e.g. that you can't stand the soy sauce notes in a three-year-old RIS before you go buying cases of Expedition. And if you're trading for aged bottles, ask the person if they can provide you any details about how the bottle has been stored in the interim. I don't buy into the 55-degrees-is-best hypothesis for beer specifically, but you'll at least want to know if it's been in a basement or a shop window.
     
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  16. PhilistinePhilosophy

    PhilistinePhilosophy Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2013 Minnesota

    I haven't consumed a beer since '99 because when I buy a new bottle it's instantly used to insulate my home. I guess I cellar?
     
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