a few questions

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  1. Marshall_ofmcap

    Marshall_ofmcap Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2013 Colorado

    So I have made my second batch of beer and I have some questions.

    One: what are others doing with the grains after they have been mashed? I feel bad throwing them out because a) I payed for them and b) the whole starving kids in Africa thing. I have frozen some and used it in whole grain bread but i don't run a bakery and can't eat that much bread.

    Two: how important is it to filter out the hops pellets after boiling? I have very little desire to filter them if it won't change the flavor much.

    Three: I have been cooling my wort down with ice-water that has not been boiled. The irony of boiling water so I can freeze it is too much for me I guess. Is this a bad idea?

    And last a pre-emptive thank you.
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The only question that I have input on is the hop filtering question. I personally do not filter out my hops. Having hops in your fermenter will not impact the flavor of your beer. There is no need to filter out hops.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. Dakotah

    Dakotah Initiate (0) May 3, 2013 California

    In regard to question one: do you have a dog, or know someone with dogs? I have a great recipe for spent grain dog treats.

    That's all I have input on as I am currently just a homebrew lingerer... Cheers
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    A little bit of kettle trub in the fermenter is okay, and probably beneficial. But a lot is not. I strain my wort on its way to the fermenter. Others use hop bags, or hop blockers, or carefully rack off of the kettle trub.
     
  5. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Compost that spent grain.
     
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  6. Skrypt

    Skrypt Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2010 Florida

    Your ice bath doesn't mix with your wort, does it? If it's not being added to the wort, there's no need to boil it.
     
  7. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    I usually make granola with spent grain: bake it on a cookie sheet, 300 for about 2 hours or until fairly dry. I periodically mix in honey, brown sugar and trail mix and let it air dry for a few hours.
     
  8. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Assuming you're not adding ice water directly to the wort...it's OK to use unboiled ice water in the bath to chill.

    Adding unboiled ice water to the wort to chill ==> may turn out OK but definitely not a best practice.
     
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  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    That sounds good. (You didn't say, but I'm assuming it is or you wouldn't have passed along this recipe.) I'm going to try that. Thanks.
     
  10. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    Yeah it's worked pretty well this far, but the flavor/texture is quite different depending on what grains are used. It's not a traditional granola per se, but it work well with yogurt or fruit. I bet it'd be awesome if you threw in some toasted oats as well. I used natural peanut butter last time and that was tasty too.
     
  11. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    1. I compost my grains as well, though you have to mix in some grass clippings or it will start smelling really bad.

    2. Just pour your wort through a big strainer. Not only does this remove the hop debris, it helps to aerate your wort.

    3. As others have mentioned, you don't need to boil the water if you're using it to cool outside of the pot.
     
  12. b-one

    b-one Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 California

    - Compost. Or leave it out for the birds. Or leave it out for bait to shoot the squirrels. I do all three. Depending on my temperament and how much the squirrels are wreaking havoc in the garden.
    - I never filter. When you rack it to the secondary, the hops and trub go away. Leave it in the primary 2 weeks minimum and everything drops out, rack to secondary to bottle or keg. Irish moss or Campden tablet if you like.
    - I'm really hoping not in the wort, as do others.
     
  13. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    What is the Campden tablet for??
    To the OP, whirlpool the wort while it chills and most of the hops will settle out. Depending on how you transfer wort to fermenter that may be good enough. Regardless, there will soon be a layer of dead yeast and trub covering anything that makes it from the kettle to the fermenter.
    Realistically, your tap water should be sanitary enough to brew with-if not you'll be having much bigger health problems to deal with long before that infected beer finishes fermenting.
     
  14. ventura78

    ventura78 Pundit (972) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

    Geese love spent grain. I dump over 50 lbs. at a time and by the next day its all gone.
     
  15. Marshall_ofmcap

    Marshall_ofmcap Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2013 Colorado

  16. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    I use some for bread - I keep a quart or so out for that.
    Some for mulch in my garden,
    most will go into the "back forty" (my term for the compost bin)
     
  17. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Thats really shitty to want to feed some starving kids some tasteless spent grain..

    Kidding aside, you can compost, or eat it. Give it to a local farmer for feed, or make something with it. I'm not feeding my dogs grain, and while I have room to compost, I have no need or desire. So I dump it in the trash can.

    The hop debris, just whirlpool it and let it settle, it'll help alot, but any that gets in, is perfectly fine.

    And rule of thumb for not just water, but anything that touches the wort after a boil, needs to be sanitary, period.
     
  18. Boozecamel

    Boozecamel Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2011 Canada (BC)

    I would be up for the recipe!

    Cheers
     
  19. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Tru'dat unless OP's tap water has chlorine and chlorine-like by-products which are driven-off by boiling or...did I doze off in class?
     
  20. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (1,215) Jan 13, 2006 New Mexico

    I forget that my water is unusual, it's a rural co-o with no chlorine or chloramines. It's hard as concrete but no added chemicals
     
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