Enough with the hops already!

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by chapeti, Aug 29, 2013.

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  1. chapeti

    chapeti Devotee (361) Jan 6, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    I'm so tired of trying the next trendy beer and getting blasted with hops. Everything has gone "Imperial". Even Belgians have jumped in. Is anyone coming up with new, flavorful yeast strains?
     
  2. chapeti

    chapeti Devotee (361) Jan 6, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    And I don't mean those sour/funky bretts...
     
  3. basscram

    basscram Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2006 Maine

    I think they are trying to hide something with all them hops
     
  4. BuckeyeOne

    BuckeyeOne Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2008 Washington

    No. Not anyone.
     
  5. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    Too bad
     
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  6. bayareahustla

    bayareahustla Zealot (656) Jul 13, 2012 California
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  7. Prager62

    Prager62 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,292) May 7, 2010 Colorado
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    A matter of opinion I guess, as they seem to fly off the shelves around here in Indiana every time a new one is released. Stone's Enjoy By is the latest example! Breweries are savvy to trends like all other businesses.
     
  8. ISmith87

    ISmith87 Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2011 Arizona

    I'm assuming the guys that are more experienced than me have just passed over this thread, however, first let's start with the fact that "Imperial" means a higher ABV rather than a higher IBU, hence your imperial Russian stout versus a regular stout, or an imperial IPA versus a regular IPA. A "standard" American iPA could be "blasted" with hops, with the example of Sculpin IPA. So increased hops DOES NOT mean imperial, to start...

    Then we consider the "Belgians have jumped in" factor - if you're talking about "imperials" I'm assuming you mean like Sam Adams Imperial White? Or maybe Dragonmead Brewery Final Absolution? I dunno, Belgians' are great beers, and I plan myself to do a video in honor of them eventually...

    Then finally, "is anyone coming up with new, flavorful yeast strains".

    From the last sentence in this question you make it sound like we need to start from the beginning. I would say that yea, they are coming up with new strains, but at the same time if you haven't tried a beer make with WLP001 vs San Diego Super Yeast vs a Belgian strain or a lambic strain then you should compare the two first, and consider many other yeast strains before you worry about whether or not there are new ones coming out...

    Honestly my best advice to this poster would be back up, wait a few years, and come back to craft beers and try a few more, if you like it then maybe it's something you can grow into. Otherwise, it seems like you're a little too early to get into all of this.
     
  9. Trouzorz

    Trouzorz Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2013 Illinois

    New from The Alchemist for 2014: Bretty Topper!
     
  10. regularjohn

    regularjohn Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 New Jersey

    no one is forcing you to drink them
     
  11. RblWthACoz

    RblWthACoz Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2006 Pennsylvania

    How so? I think the Belgians set the tone with their whole dubbel, tripel, quad thing. They seem to be the originators of "big beers" if you ask me.
     
  12. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    Why spend your time complaining about what you don't like? It seems it would be a more productive use of time drinking what you do like. Who cares what they new "trendy" beer is, did they stop making your old favorite to produce this beer? There is plenty of beers out there that will not "blast you in the face" with hops.
     
  13. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Which yeast strains have you tried already? I have tried well over 2000 beers and I doubt I have tried more than 1/2 of what's out there. Here are just a few from one company.

    http://www.wyeastlab.com/rw_styleguide.cfm

    And there are quite a few other yeast farmers selling quite a few other yeasts.

    Perhaps your question should be "which of the many yeast strains I haven't tried should I now try?"

    Or perhaps you have tried them all. In that case I can give you the good news that due to yeast's nature different tasting yeasts create themselves constantly.
     
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  14. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Can't speak for the OP -- and no, they didn't stop producing my standby beer when a new super hoppy beer came out -- but my standby, Spaten, did get pushed off the shelves of my local supermarket and bottleshop by yet another slew of "new," wholly mediocre hoppy beers.
     
  15. Nanners

    Nanners Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2013 Ohio

    Hops are what taste good.
     
  16. Brownj1288

    Brownj1288 Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2012 Virginia

    If your bottle shop and supermarket stopped carrying Spaten beers (Spaten is a brewer not a specific beer) then it is because they were not selling. If people want to buy the new big hoppy beers then that's what stores will carry. it isn't a problem with the direction of the industry, it is the industry responding to demand.
     
  17. danshpc

    danshpc Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2013 New York

    seems to me that there're plenty for every palate right now, I have no trouble stocking a party for every taste, from long board to imperial ipa's and chocolate stouts. love the IPA's and love the variety even more, we're living during a renaissance of brewing and i plan on enjoying it!
     
  18. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    If new hoppy beers bother you, I'd probably just avoid them. But if they persist in acosting you I'd consider a restraining order.
     
  19. bryanole27

    bryanole27 Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2011 North Carolina

    Don't you see you're your own worst enemy here? You hate the new 'trendy beers,' but continue to hunt down and buy the newest 'trendy beer'...thus feeding the machine of supply and demand? The store doesn't care that you liked it, they just see the sale and you just made it sell out faster.

    Also, don't you have an idea of what you're buying BEFORE you buy it? Or are you just running out to get the latest 'trendy beer' because it is 'trendy?'

    I for one love hops and kick to the face...so do me a favor and quit buying it if you don't like it.
     
  20. ThirstyFace

    ThirstyFace Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 New York

    Funny, because from my perspective hops haven't been front stage lately. All the rage has been barrel aged and soured or wild ales.

    I like that at least the hop varieties are evolving. So much that we are now seeing an unwritten divide between old school IPAs and modern ones (Citra, Nelson Sauvin, Galaxy, Mosaic etc.)

    If I really had a beer gripe, and sort of bouncing off Kzoobrew's comment, pumpkin beers are accounting for far too much shelf space and have seemingly stunted autumn creativity in the beer world.

    Hops, bring em on....along with everything else (hot dogs haircuts and balloons)
     
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