Brewing with Ped/Lac.

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  1. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    Brewing my first sour soon. I haven't received my Lacto and Pedio yet so I haven't seen if there are any instructions, but I have a question.

    Do I pitch these in with the brewing yeast (do they need sugar to produce acid) or can I add them during secondary fermentation? And if I am adding fruit, should that be added primary as well?

    Thanks and Cheers.
     
  2. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    Mash hot. Pitch everything at once with a couple of sour bottle dregs. Primarily ferment for 2-4 weeks, then to secondary with more bottle dregs for ~ a year. You can do fruit after 8-12 months, leaving it on that for 2-4 months.

    I did do a Supplication clone once that I added dried cherries to secondary before aging ~ a year.
     
  3. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    Ok, thanks. Would you recommend waiting to add the fruit even if I'm using blackberries and plan on puree/straining them?
     
  4. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    Fresh fruit, I'd wait until the beer was about done, then add for a few months (see: Cascade brewing). I love blackberries in beer . . . they are easy to freeze then toss in secondary. The freezing/thawing process pulverizes them. I'm just about to add ~ 1 lbs/gallon of blackberries to a big sour quad.
     
  5. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    Ok. Sweet. Sounds awesome.
     
  6. TNGabe

    TNGabe Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    You don't want to use pedio without brett. Pedio makes a lot of diacetyl, but the brett will clean the diacetyl up in time.
     
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