South American Brewery

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  1. traPISSED

    traPISSED Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2013 Brazil

    Im looking to get some insight into what North Americans and Europeans would want from a South American Brewery located in Brazil. I have brewed professionally in Europe and some here will be aware and will have tried my beers in the past.

    I have been doing research regarding what the locals in Brazil would want. I know what I would want too but I am looking to find out what an outsider would like to see regarding image and styles coming from a Brazilian craft brewery.



    A brief overview of Brazilian brewing shows that the average drinker likes the normal Macros. The majority of craft breweries here have some sort of German identity. They all produce good Pils and Weizens with a Weizenbock often being their flagship. Even though they present a German identity they are not too afraid to make Belgian Ales of various styles. There are a couple of new breweries who are focusing more on American Ipa style beers.

    So what would you like to see?
     
  2. SirBottlecap

    SirBottlecap Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2013 California

    Ales aged with Amazon hardwoods
     
  3. SirBottlecap

    SirBottlecap Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2013 California

    I kid, of course. We see nothing but lagers from South America for the most part around here, so anything else might stand out.
     
  4. spicoli00

    spicoli00 Pooh-Bah (2,305) Jul 6, 2005 Indiana
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  5. Christopper

    Christopper Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2012 New York

    A sour aged in oak on Jack fruit.
     
  6. AL89BR

    AL89BR Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2013 New Jersey

    I was born in Brazil but lived my whole life in the United States. I was in Brazil pretty much the whole summer and enjoyed some great Brazilian Craft beer. I've realized that the craft movement in Brazil is just beginning and more of the locals are starting to get into craft. Most companies such as Colorado, Invicta, 2 cabeças, Bodebrown have released pale ales, stouts, IPAs. The one style that i did not see much of were farmhouse, saisons, and sours. I know that Wals has some saisons, but i didn't see many and when i saw a bottle or two the price was a little to much.

    I would like to see some whiskey barrel stouts from Brazilian companies or even cachaca barrel stouts. The cachaca barrel beers would be something else!
     
  7. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Why? Are you considering the tourist market or the export market?
     
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  8. TruePerception

    TruePerception Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    As Christopper suggested, anything using indigenous fruit, seeds, and plants would be nice. Especially aged sours! I'd imagine they have good ingredients for stouts, as well.
     
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  9. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Use some of that funky wood down there.. And you must have some of the coolest plant/fruit additives.
     
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  10. jcb7472

    jcb7472 Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Florida

    Agree on using indigenous/tropical fruits.
     
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  11. kodt

    kodt Pooh-Bah (2,286) Mar 6, 2013 Illinois
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  12. Brenden

    Brenden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,436) Feb 25, 2008 Ohio
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    This is what I was coming here to say. I almost picked up two, but the $9 price tag for each kept me away for now. Still, they intrigued me.
     
  13. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Personally, I think a local spin on ales would be enough. What would make an IPA or a Belgian from Brazil different? Different hops, yeast, malt, fruit, etc.? That sounds interesting to me.
     
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  14. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Savant (1,083) Mar 13, 2010 Wisconsin

    Why kid around when he can actually do that. Plenty of non poisonous exotic woods over there. Also if they brewed sours they could use tropical fruits think papaya or guava sours or he could go really crazy and use jabuticaba or platonia fruits. They possiblitiys are endless when you brew beers that incorporate locally sourced ingredients. Limitations that can really encourage a lot of creativity.

    My suggestion to the OP would be to brew some solid beers you know you can sell in your market then just start to go nuts with the ingredients you have around you. Being in Brazil you would have access to ingredients that most brewers have only dreamed of using and I'm sure some that no one ever even thought to.
     
  15. nickfl

    nickfl Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2006 Florida

    Why would it matter what Europeans and North Americans want? I would think it would be important to try to appeal to the locals rather than worry about export or tourists. You have a large, increasingly affluent populace in Brazil and that translates to a huge market for craft beer waiting to be converted from the international light lagers that dominate everywhere in South America.
     
  16. SirBottlecap

    SirBottlecap Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2013 California

    It's not that I think they are poisonous (?!), it's just that using Amazonian wood doesn't exactly sound politically correct, thus the joke. I have had beer brewed with poison, and it ain't pretty: Cool Colt, brewed with menthol-tasting pit-viper venom.
     
  17. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Savant (1,083) Mar 13, 2010 Wisconsin

    Ingesting venom won't hurt you its only toxic if it gets into your blood so I could see that but I'm not sure why you would brew with it though or even want to ingest it.

    I see what you mean't now but DFH uses Palo Santo wood to make Palo Santo Marron which is a fenominal brown ale. Some exotic hard woods are poisonous to people though like cocobolo or pernambuco (used to make violin bows) they are mostly used for musical instruments. Some can be used for both though.

    I was just say even though you where kinda joking he could actually do that with potentially awesome results.
     
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  18. Hockey_Fan

    Hockey_Fan Pooh-Bah (1,851) Jan 13, 2013 Maryland
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    I agree as well...
     
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