A local experiment

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by jacksback, Apr 27, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Also from Mass and I could easily do this. But although I'm all for supporting local, the quality has to be there. If you don't have a good enough product I'm not buying your beer no matter close to me you are. Unfortunately the closest brewery to me fits this exact situation.
     
  2. jacksback

    jacksback Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2011 Massachusetts

    Interesting indeed. Gotta say- Vincent notes above that he couldn't manage (and from what I've heard about NC, that makes sense!), but there's a LOT of people saying they could be happy to do this.

    Given that extent of support for the idea/experiment... and given that I live in the MA market, I gotta say I'm tempted to actually try this.

    So, one has to wonder... with all the "hell yeah I could buy local-only" posts... anyone else actually willing to try it?

    I'm thinking I am. Heck, worst case scenario is that I go back to hitting Jacks Abbey every weekend. Woe is me.
     
    yamar68 likes this.
  3. jacksback

    jacksback Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2011 Massachusetts

    Think about it... just beer. Not food, not gas, not your cable company. Just beer.

    Buy local.

    Do you support your local craftsmen/women? Yeah?

    Money. Put it where your mouth is, and be honest.

    May 1. Why not. It begins.
     
    meanmutt likes this.
  4. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
    Pooh-Bah

    ARIZONA - Absolutely NOT



    And I think people should "drink best", and not "drink local", unless local really is best to you. The last thing the U.S. needs is more average breweries staying in business even longer because of the drink local movement.
     
  5. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    I could probably be cool with a month drinking nothing but Bell's, or Founders, or Shorts or.....

    Would not be an issue.
     
    fishtremble likes this.
  6. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    Living in Virginia I would be screwed. I mean we have some breweries that make solid stuff, but eh...
     
    mcaulifww likes this.
  7. jacksback

    jacksback Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2011 Massachusetts

    Sure- but if you've got quality locals... the FIRST thing your local economy needs is more dollars.

    Sure, Arizona might be an outlier... but if you've got the local worthwhile beers- why not?

    In fact, to carry it a step further- would anyone with a quality local market genuinely be able to say they'd be unhappy with locals-only?

    Do you really need that CA DIPA, or NE belgian style, or wtf-ever from out of state to enjoy your beer drinking this weekend?

    Again, a lot of people seem to be saying "yeah, my local market could totally handle this"- without any real commitment.

    But, hey, I totally get that- buying local for a week or two, maybe even a month, would be FAR too much to ask of anyone.

    :wink:
     
  8. jacksback

    jacksback Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2011 Massachusetts

    If you've got those breweries... why would you be screwed? Genuine question.

    One week would be too much, you'd be too screwed?

    I just kinda thought of this as an interesting experiment or whatever- but the more you think about it, the more it begs the question- really, how "screwed" would you be? Even in a less-than-ideal market?

    Screwed?

    Drink for thought indeed.
     
  9. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    One week, I thought we were talking about a month. I could do a week.
     
  10. shand

    shand Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 13, 2010 Florida
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I live in Tampa, FL, and could subsist on Cigar City for a month. However, we don't really have too many local bottled/canned craft options right now besides them, so more than a month would be a problem.
     
    fullmetal1381 likes this.
  11. ledzeppelin4

    ledzeppelin4 Initiate (0) May 18, 2011 Illinois

    Between Goose Island, Two Brothers and Metropolitan, and Revolution canning soon, I gotta say I've got some really solid choices here in Illinois. (One of these days I gotta try me some Half Acre. Wish their beers were distributed here in the 'burbs).
     
  12. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    In WV we would die. That's as far as I'll go with that.
    I have to say, if Beermageddon really happened you guys from NY are making me think that a northern migration is the most logical route to comfortable survival. Might linger in Penn for a time though...

    Have to say Vncent, you should appreciate the bounty that you have.

    You too Hanzo. Still think Blue Mtn's Full Nelson is one of the best normal beers made. St Geo., Port City, Wild Wolf, Starr Hill, Williamsburg (right?). You could find worthy material there for a month. A year in a pinch.

    These 2 states (NC and VA) would be a very interesting test of this idea. I wish I could try it.

    I don't know yemenmocha. What if you didn't have the ability to summon beer from afar? What if everything you had was within a relatively small radius from your home? Wouldn't you be grateful that those folks making beer just shy of 'best' kept trying to perfect their craft, usually putting out acceptable wares but occasionally dropping a one-of-a-kind nectar on those close enough to be part of it? I really feel like the best energy from the whole craft beer environment evolves from like-minded folks lingering around containers of good local brew and enjoying it for what it is.

    In the States we have mastered the technique of the game without the heart of it.
     
  13. IKR

    IKR Maven (1,490) May 25, 2010 California
    Trader

    I'm in California, so yeah without a doubt. I would say I could do Southern California only.
     
    UnknownKoger likes this.
  14. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    You realize you're talking about Arizona, right? You did use (with emphasis) the word *happily* in the OP, after all.
     
    yemenmocha likes this.
  15. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
    Pooh-Bah

    My local economy needs more dollars? what about the economy where my favorite IPA's come from? Either way, someone gets my money and someone else doesn't. I'd rather my $ support excellence than something a notch down from there.

    Your phrase "quality local market" is a bit vague to me. I'd say I have some quality options locally, but I have vastly superior options imported from nearby states. I'm shortchanging myself and my personal enjoyment if I "buy local" and I'm NOT rewarding excellence for those breweries who truly brew world-class beers, like IPA's from San Diego for example.

    I see my local market differently than you might see yours. We don't have great breweries like San Diego or other great beer destinations. None. We don't. To think otherwise is to show that you're smoking something, and I'll have no shortage of agreement on that. So people who are supporting locals are supporting what I think is less than a top tier brewery, and so therefore those breweries stay in business and it becomes an entry barrier of sorts for potential breweries that will never exist because others have already extended their tentacles so far into the local market. So not only does it amount to supporting inferior products locally, it also impedes other breweries from opening (that might actually be of a San Diego caliber). So it hurts me both ways if I buy local. So I don't. And I hope the mediocre & bad ones go out of business sooner than later.
     
    Agold likes this.
  16. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
    Pooh-Bah

    Then please just take it as "drink best available" to you. My gripe is with supporting something local for the "buy local" ideology sort of reasons, rather than buying what you think is the best available in your market. I think that on the whole we're better off if the best breweries thrive, regardless of geographical location. let the mediocre ones die.
     
  17. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    No my friend. I live in WV for now. You do not have my sympathy for your poor beer front.

    You sound Machiavellian. I am surprised that you don't seem to grasp the basics. Existing entity will not keep aspiring entity from existing if aspiring entity operates under a more sound operational plan [read: better product].

    And if your local brewers folded, you would have nothing local as an option. Nothing. Less than you have now. I'm thinking you would stubbornly be alright with that.

    Excusivity notwithstanding, it depends on your definition of 'excellence' and why you would consider something 'world-class'. I guess I'm just saying that, aside from timely delivery of options from afar which you seem to have become accustomed to, it would be a shame if you could find absolutely no enjoyment from your local options.
    I hope someday you reach San Diego.
     
  18. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    Hmmm....

    Alpine
    The Bruery
    Bootleggers
    Firestone walker
    Stone
    Alesmith
    Lost Abbey

    Yeah I think im good

    Cheers!
     
    UnknownKoger likes this.
  19. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    It's easy to do when you live on the Best Coast.
     
    beerme411 and brentusaurus like this.
  20. Horseballs

    Horseballs Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2012 Ohio

    Hmm... Great Lakes, Thirsty Dog, Hoppin' Frog, Brew Kettle, Indigo Imp, soon to be Fatheads distributing... without even realizing it I tend to drink local.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.