Victory Dirtwolf vs Lagunitas Sucks

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  1. bkov33

    bkov33 Zealot (666) Dec 5, 2007 New Jersey

    everyone talks about how cheap dirtwolf is but if it were in six packs it would be $12.75 (assuming average $8.50 4pack = $2.13 per bottle).
     
  2. MichiBrew

    MichiBrew Initiate (0) Nov 26, 2010 Michigan

    Wow man...not an apt comparison...Dirtwolf is ok but nowhere near the level that Sucks is on...Enjoy By would be a better comparison...
     
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  3. KevinGordon

    KevinGordon Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2012 North Carolina

    DirtWolf is pretty good, albeit nothing special in my opinion. I kind of prefer Hop Wallop to be honest. Waiting waiting waiting on Sucks to come back out
     
  4. jdaddy

    jdaddy Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2010 Pennsylvania


    The case price here in PA is almost identical. 4pks and 6pks are way over priced.
     
  5. infuturity83

    infuturity83 Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 Massachusetts

    As for the "cat-piss" commentary, that is just a simplified explanation people have come up with to describe the particular character of certain hop strains. Much like "horse-blanket" has become a hot term in describing wild ales, though I SEVERLY doubt that any more than 2% of those who use the term have actually ever even *smelled* a horse's blanket, nevermind tasted it.

    It's ridiculous, of course...just plain silly. Hops (yes, even Simcoe), do not smell like cat piss. They do, however, smell dank and resiny, which shares some characteristics of cat piss.

    Whenever you see the term "cat-piss" in one of these forums, just take a step back and realize that it's somebody trying to sound cool or edgy by espousing something rancid and vile, not an accurate description of the beer's quality or characteristics
     
  6. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,966) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    Dank. Please define dank. Because to me it's the same kind of term as cat piss.
     
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  7. imbrue001

    imbrue001 Zealot (673) Aug 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I wish we could thumbs down comments.
     
  8. jdaddy

    jdaddy Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2010 Pennsylvania

    According to the kids, dank is most frequently used to describe higher quality cannabis.
     
  9. HeyJim

    HeyJim Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I bought my first Dirtwolf 4pack yesterday. Upon smelling and tasting, I immediately thought of my vacation to Vermont this summer. It's never been a secret of mine that Victory is my favorite brewery, but I feel like if this was a Hill Farmstead beer that people would be going apeshit over it.
     
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  10. tjwarren

    tjwarren Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2008 Ohio

    Dirt Wolf wins hands down in my book. I did not find them all that similar. I will miss Hop Wallop but I do think DW is a step up from HW.
     
  11. TequilaSauer

    TequilaSauer Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2006 Florida

    Had both last night. I think Dirtwolf is better, but, honestly, I don't think either of these beers are like super amazing. I'm surprised how nuts everyone is about these 2 right now. Like, I'm seeing these compared to Enjoy By and that's just shenanigans!
     
  12. Knapp85

    Knapp85 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,712) Dec 25, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    My vote goes to Sucks.
     
  13. MrDave

    MrDave Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2013 California

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    So odd that Dirtwolf is better than 8-10 month old Sucks. :rolling_eyes:

    Hardly shenanigans! Maybe if you cracked an Enjoy By 4.01.13 right now you'd feel a little differently. The three beers you mention are certainly comparable. They are all excellent when fresh.
     
  14. MrDave

    MrDave Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2013 California

    Well, like cat piss, I think it's another situation where we discuss something tasting like the way something else smells. In this case, I believe it refers to the way very good weed smells. A little skunky and a little pungent.
     
  15. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    I agree. Hill Farmstead's beers are way overhyped. As I posted earlier, I had HF's Double Citra side-by-side with Dirtwolf, for comparison purposes, and the Double Citra is a good deal better. HOWEVER, many of HF's other beers are overrated by a point (or at least half a point) in my opinion
     
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  16. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    I've never read someone's description of a beer TASTING like cat piss. I never got that aroma, myself, until I tried RuinTen: first beer where I ever had that, "Ahh! Hey, that, DOES smell like cat piss!" moment. I've noticed it a few times since then, but it's honestly pretty rare in a DIPA. (And no, I've never thought a beer tasted like cat piss...don't even know where to begin.)

    OT: I really like DirtWolf, but I absolutely do not put it up there with Enjoy By; it's not a matter of quality, but of the hop profile I prefer. I've only seen Sucks in this area once, way past any semblance of fresh, so I'm really looking forward to trying that one this year. If it's as good as DirtWolf, I won't exactly be writing letters espousing my disappointment to Lagunitas. :wink:
     
  17. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Still waiting for sucks, not gonna happen any time soon as We/I(SEPA) have yet to see brown sugga. Weak sauce. ( I know it's unfair to the overpriced under flavored pieces of pale ale that are supposed to be sold in my market nowadays)
     
  18. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    WI still has not received any DirtWolf. I guess we have to first drink all the old Wallop that is collecting dust on the shelves.
     
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  19. williamjbauer

    williamjbauer Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2012 Colorado

  20. NHbeerfishing

    NHbeerfishing Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2012 New Hampshire

    I really noticed the cat piss smell in the dirt wolf. Literally held it up a couple of times before having a second sip. Personally "Sucks" is a few notches above the wolf
     
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