Deceptive Beer Pricing

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by pehodges, Oct 29, 2013.

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  1. pehodges

    pehodges Devotee (395) May 25, 2013 Massachusetts

    What is it about the beer (alcohol in general) business that leads itself to deceptive practices on disclosure of price? I live in Massachusetts, and despite the preconception that, in Massachusetts, open pricing would be mandated, policed and enforced, I walk into liquor stores and nothing is priced on the shelf. Ok, big signs for this week's Bud Lite special, but cases full of craft beer without prices. Then I go into the bar- no prices advertized anywhere. A board with current drafts, even a menu with drafts, with no prices. Have you ever seen a restaurant menu with liquor prices? They feel it necessary to give the price for another bowl of chips and salsa, but the Corona is priceless. And even if they do have prices, no telling what size pour they're offering. If they have an expensive beer on tap, believe me they have brought in special thimbles to serve it in. And then if they are offering a "12 oz", you get a 12 oz glass filled most of the way to the top with a two-inch head.
    Why aren't people complaining?
    If you went in to WalMart, paid $10 for "toilet paper" sight-unseen, then received half a roll, wouldn't you complain?
     
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  2. PalatePilot

    PalatePilot Pundit (903) Dec 24, 2010 Colorado

    You're the first to complain about beer pricing...
     
  3. TheBeerDad

    TheBeerDad Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2012 Michigan

  4. MenryAZ

    MenryAZ Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2013 Arizona

    Yeah, asking works pretty well usually. Plus, as a bar owner especially, I would find it unbecoming to list the prices of beer up on a chalkboard or the wall and inefficient to put a printed draft list on every table, especially if it frequently rotates.
     
  5. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    A price list must be prominently displayed by law in this country and of course all draught beers have to be in measured quantities of a pint, half or third.Also, there is no tipping of bar staff so the customer knows exactly what it will cost.
    If priced by the pint , a half and third pint must be half or a third as much rounded to the nearest legal tender coin but many pubs round up a bit more in which case separate prices must be listed.
    It isn't necessary to list each beer separately, for example "guest beers" may all be priced the same and bulked together.But any self respecting landlord will want to keep customers well informed regarding what beers are on offer and update regularly.It doesn't take long to wipe an expired beer off the board and chalk up its replacement.
     
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  6. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I know exactly what the price of beers I buy will be even with tip. It's the cost of the beer + $1. I know it every time. :wink:
     
  7. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    A dollar just for serving a beer? If only I was so wealthy.
    The Marquis of Granby a few years ago was run by a Canadian couple who had spent quite some time doing bar work in Canada and the US , they regarded tipping $1 a beer as a huge joke.
     
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  8. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Different country, different customs. And especially if you want to get noticed at a crowded bar.
     
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  9. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado


    When the technology is inexpensive enough, every bar will have a video screen with up to the second selections and prices [like some do now] and restaurants, depending on their snob appeal will either have video screens or individual tablets for every table with prices, sizes, etc. Be patient, someday you will be complaining about too much information.

    Of course, the immediate solution is to drink at home.
     
  10. Rehmeyer

    Rehmeyer Aspirant (227) Jul 20, 2009 Maryland

    Asking doesn't always work so well. I've been to many liquor stores where they don't put price tags on everything, and if you ask the price, they act like you're asking for the moon. If I have such an experience, I avoid those liquor stores.
     
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  11. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    What happens when all the people in a crowded bar are good tippers? Who gets attention first?
     
  12. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    If it's too much trouble to keep your customers informed you shouldn't be in business. It isn't that much trouble anyway to keep a list updated.
     
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  13. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Then it becomes extortion, which is the way that American service industry would like to have it.
     
  14. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    If you have to ask the price of a Corona, you probably shouldn't buy it. They are "priceless".
     
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  15. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Don't worry. It never happens.
     
  16. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Yeah, as social workers my wife and I are swimming in cash! I drive a Ferrari to South Providence where I help former inmates re-enter the community. My wife, who works with pregnant women dealing with mental health and substance abuse issues has a private helicopter drop her off each day!

    Joking aside, you're starting a separate argument here about whether or not tipping is good or bad. My comment was simply designed to show that with or without tipping, predicting the cost of a beer is just as possible.
     
  17. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    To tell you the truth, I think complaining about it (both to the manager and on social media) is a good way to handle it. Voting with your feet is another. If I see prices aren't marked I usually leave empty-handed. As an American I have come to accept a degree of uncertainty about pour sizes, but price should be clearly marked or my patience will be very thin.
     
  18. Badger72

    Badger72 Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2013 Louisiana

    I disagree, my favorite bar (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/20010) has clipboards with a printed draft list on it with up to date pricing, how many ounzes, abv, and style. They have around 10-15 of these just sitting by the bar and they are constantly rotating drafts (weekly). I don't think it is inefficient for a bar owner, it's pure lazy or them hoping you won't ask and just buy without knowing the price.
     
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  19. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    Yes, those places are exemplary, and yet they still don't indicate pour size, only price and ABV.
     
  20. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I've never tended bar or served tables, but service oriented jobs like these are often low-wage positions in this country. Employers get away with this because there is a semi-formalized expectation that the employee will be earning some portion of wages via tips. It's a backwards system, to my way of thinking, but it's not enitrely without merit.

    I'll let it go so the focus can be more about beer pricing, except to say that if this system were to change so that employers directly compensated servers fairly, I imaging the price for a beer would have to go up.
     
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