Nice Pils and Lagers

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  1. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Thanks to Indy dad and ilikebelgianbeers. Both turned me onto Jack Abby which is superb, and I'm into some Olde Mecklenburg brews right now. A nice turn away from my familiar IPA's and BA Stouts. No thread about the style can be complete if these two breweries are not included. Very simple brews that I'm really appreciating, still a hop head though. But this OM Pils is really outstanding and very much different than Prima or Noble, Sunshine etc, IMO much better, and yes better is subjective.
     
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  2. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Yes. OMB pils is better. :wink:
     
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  3. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    OMB Pils is very nice, a little bready, yeasty maybe, quite nice for a guy who typically hates malty brews. By comparison Prima and the like are hop bombs.
     
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  4. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Well, I am assuming the Jack's Abby beers are hop bombs compared to OMB, too, correct? Very interested to hear your comparison.

    And, yes, there is a distinct SO2 note from the house yeast OMB uses. It's a result, I suspect, of their use of spunding devices on their fermentation tanks; this is a very traditional German practice, and I haven't seen it used by many U.S. brewers at all. Olde Meck does it strictly by the Reinheitsgebot and -- despite what people might contend -- it definitely makes a difference.

    You get any Copper (OMB's Alt)? It is the single most authentic interpretation of any German style by any U.S. brewer I have tasted.
     
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  5. Dupage25

    Dupage25 Savant (1,044) Jul 4, 2013 Antarctica

    Wish there were more classic Czech pils here in the U.S. Also wish there were more (and better) doppelbocks.
     
  6. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Not yet, but I'm going to OMB on Fri for lunch. The head and lacing on this OMB is crazy, this beer is 20 minutes or more in the glass and still has a nice 1/8 to 1/4 in head and the lacing is thick as hell. Rich creamy finish that literally slides down is the only true description I can give. I'm completely ignorant of the style, but yes by comparison JA is more hoppy.
     
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  7. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    If you are looking for a great malt character in a Pils you should check out Weihenstephaner as well.
     
  8. mmmbirra

    mmmbirra Pundit (877) Apr 19, 2009 Italy

    Fantasic, few things are as satisfying as a good pilsener. It's good to see more and more attention given to them by craft brewers. There are some good ones coming from Italian craft as well.
    Birrificio Italiano makes Tipo Pils which is to me fairly untraditional and along the lines of Prima Pils.
    Birrificio del Ducato makes a decent straightforward pils, which may be available in the states, if not quite fresh.
    And a local brewery here makes a fantastic keller pils that's got a nice bite but isn't overdone with the hops.
    There are many others as well, as I'm sure there are many other good pils' to be found at your end of the world.
     
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  9. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I have very much enjoyed New Glarus' Edel Pils, a summer release this year, and Two Women Lager, available year round. You might find them worth trading for if you can't get to Wisconsin to buy.
     
  10. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Not sure Sprecher or Capital find distribution in Antarctica, but Capital's Autumnal Fire and their Spring Blonde Doppelbock are terrific examples -- and I just found Sprecher's Summer Pils (hopefully they'll keep it as a seasonal next year) that nails the Bohemian Pilsner style beautifully.

    Also, Gordon Biersch has a seasonal Winterbock (also available at Trader Joe's as their Joseph's Brau Winterfest) that's an outstanding Bavarian-style Doppelbock.
     
  11. iuindy2l

    iuindy2l Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2013 Indiana

    Heavy Seas Small Craft Warning is a great (double) Pils.
     
  12. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Get your hands on Urban Chestnut Zwickel. Great stuff!
     
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  13. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    May I suggest pikeland pils by sly fox. I found this to be an excellent lager and a bit of a surprise as you never hear of sly fox much. They also make a helles lager.
     
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  14. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Welcome to the Pils fan club.

    I'm thinking you've started to find that there's actually a good bit of complexity in the style and that there are some really interesting within style variations here in the US, just as there are in Germany.
     
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  15. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I've had Sly Fox at the Phillies game at CBP, I like their beers a lot, love the cans too.
     
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  16. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    How would you say it compares to OMB?
     
  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Your right there is a lot going on for a simple beer, And I wasn't kidding when I said that beer slides down very easily. It's thick and creamy without being viscous, there's plenty of carbonation, you can see it, the head lasted till the last sip over 30 minutes, the lacing was outrageous till the end. I'm not a chugger by any means but you could take a sip and empty the glass with very little problem I think. Definitely less filling for whatever reason. With the Jack Abby and OMB, it's the 1st time like I actually felt like I have had a craft lager or Pils, it's how far separated they are from everything else within that style I've had to date, IMO of course. It doesn't take away from Victory and the like, but they are definitely different, and inexpensive to boot. I've dabbled with Oktoberfest before, but nothing moved me like the beers from these two breweries, maybe it was just time and I was ready.
     
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  18. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I like Sly Fox a lot, and I like Sunshine Pils too which is kinda fruity, but definitely more hops, not as creamy and while very good a better comparison would be Prima, or Nobel Pils.
     
  19. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I wouldn't classify a nice pils as "malty" though. It's a style that strikes a beautiful balance between malt and hops, with the scale leaning SLIGHTLY towards the hops. Unlike something like a Helles, which is more subtle with it's hop character and bit more malt forward.

    But when I think "malty" in terms of German styles I think of doppelbocks, maibocks, marzens...etc.
     
  20. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Yeah- Sly Fox, Sunshine Pils and Prima are all similar, and in the Northern German substyle- drier and hoppier. Of the three I like Sunshine the best because I can have a few of them without getting palate fatigue, which definitely sets in for me with Prima.

    You should also try some Helles, if you enjoy the maltier, richer brews- and Sly Fox is a great place to start, delicious and true to style.
     
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