Real Ales - Stupid Question

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  1. schepelz

    schepelz Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2013 Michigan

    Bit of beer newbie here, so bear with me.

    Okay, so I just started getting big into trying new beers a couple months ago. I've always loved Porters/Stouts/IPAs but I wanted to expand my horizons and try new things. I'm currently reading Tasting Beer(about 1/3 of the way through) and am coming across some new styles I want to try.

    Lets fast forward to my experience at the brewery I visited today, which I usually greatly enjoy. I see on the board that they had a Real Ale on the hand pump...

    Me: "Can I try your real ale please?"
    Bartender: "Ummm...we don't have that...."
    Me: "oh alright, I'll just go with the porter then."
    Bartender: "Would you want a REAL porter or a fake one?? Or would you like another made up beer?"

    Did I order completely incorrectly here and make a complete fool of myself? I'm still completely lost at what just unfolded hahaha. I've read how real ales are brewed/made but am I not supposed to refer to them as real ales when ordering?! So very lost
     
  2. CassinoNorth

    CassinoNorth Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 New Jersey

    The bartender sounds like a dick, but I have no idea what a real ale is.
     
  3. schepelz

    schepelz Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2013 Michigan

    I'm sure it was just my ignorance. Just want to know so I don't look like an idiot again haha
     
  4. nquigley16

    nquigley16 Initiate (0) Sep 18, 2012 Massachusetts

    Your order was perfectly fine. The bartender was either a dick, stupid, or didn't know they had that as an offering on the menu. Sounds like bad service though.

    Real ale is just another term for cask ale.
     
  5. swedishmailman

    swedishmailman Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2013 Georgia

    Real Ale is a brewery, but I'm not sure if that's what they were referring to on the board.
     
  6. mrcraft

    mrcraft Grand Pooh-Bah (3,396) Dec 15, 2012 California
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    That bartender was a dick. Real ale is also cask ale. Sounds like they had something on cask if they refer to hand pump.
     
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  7. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    The bartender was a moron, or was just messing with you. Either way that is some shitty customer service. You should have responded, "No I would have liked to have spent my real money here, but I guess it is welcome." Then walked out.
     
  8. StLeasy

    StLeasy Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2013 Illinois

    Bartender was an idiot and a dick, most likely.
     
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  9. blastoderm55

    blastoderm55 Pundit (879) Jun 7, 2013 Texas

    Real Ale is a brewery in Texas. Not sure if they are distributed in your area. Sounds like a jerk of a bartender regardless. I hope his tip reflected it.
     
  10. schepelz

    schepelz Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2013 Michigan

    Ehh it's all good, probably just bitter about working Halloween. Glad I didn't make a complete fool of myself haha. I've been wanting to try real/cask ale so I'll try again in the future.
     
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  11. FanofHefe

    FanofHefe Pooh-Bah (2,217) Feb 13, 2010 Illinois
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    Stupid bar tender. Real ale = cask ale. Can be any style. Next time ask for what is on cask.
     
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  12. schepelz

    schepelz Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2013 Michigan

    This makes a lot of sense and is extremely helpful. Thank you very much
     
  13. westcoastbeerlvr

    westcoastbeerlvr Grand Pooh-Bah (4,115) Oct 19, 2010 California
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    Real Ale only comes from Texas and the UK. You must have been confused.
     
  14. squirrely2005

    squirrely2005 Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2011 Texas

    I've been really into beer for about 3 years and still don't understand most of all this beer stuff. But yeah Real Ale is a brewery that's about an hour north of me in San Antonio. I barely know what a cask is myself. Don't sweat it.
     
  15. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    How the fuck does he not know what beers are offered when they are RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM?

    I mean, was he working there for a total of five minutes and didn't have time to look at the beer menu? Did he not see "real ale" right there?
     
  16. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Real ale is cask ale and is typically carbonated naturally and served at cellar temps. The guy must have been having an off day... you can make your own "real" ale at home by under carbing home brew in the bottle. The idea is huge across the pond.
     
  17. TruePerception

    TruePerception Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    According to Tasting Beer, real ale is simply beer that is naturally fermented by yeast; being in a cask isn't a necessity.
     
  18. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Real Ales was a Brewery in Chelsea MI for about a year in 1982.

    Then there is CAMRA in Britain. Campaign for Real Ale.

    Real Ale is living stuff, and is served from a cask, not a keg. Handpumps or gravity dispense are used. Bottle conditioned beer is Real Ale.
     
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  19. mrcraft

    mrcraft Grand Pooh-Bah (3,396) Dec 15, 2012 California
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    I don't recall reading that in Mosher's book. You do need some sort of container, like a cask or bottle.

    Here's a quote from Tasting Beer, page 102.

    The British Beer preservation society the Campaign for Real Ale (CAMRA) defines real ale as "a natural product brewed using traditional ingredients and left to mature in the cask (container) from which it is served in the pub through a process called secondary fermentation."
     
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  20. JasonLovesBeer

    JasonLovesBeer Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2013 Canada (BC)

    Did it say red ale?
     
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