Porters: why bother?

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  1. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I know I'll be called a heretic or worse for saying this out loud, but with only a few exceptions I'm just not a huge fan of porters. If I'm in the mood for a deep, dark, roasty beer, 9 times out of 10 I'll reach for a stout instead. I'm vaguely aware of the history of porters and why they're an important member of the beer pantheon. But I'd argue that they have been surpassed in every meaningful way by the stout, except perhaps relative thinness of body and, sometimes, translucence—neither of which I view as particularly positive attributes in a bigger, darker, roastier beer.

    So I ask you, BA: with so many wonderful stouts available, why ever settle for a porter? Convince me I'm wrong. Cheers!
     
  2. standardcherry

    standardcherry Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2011 Massachusetts

    People enjoy different things? "Why have a pale ale when there are wonderful DIPAs out there?"

    Closing remarks: Founder's Porter.
     
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  3. denver10

    denver10 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,155) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico
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    I am not "settling" when I reach for a porter.

    Closing remarks: Odell's Cutthroat Porter.
     
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  4. Pegli

    Pegli Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2006 Rhode Island

    A stout is a porter.
     
  5. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Please keep us updated.
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “ …but with only a few exceptions I'm just not a huge fan of porters. If I'm in the mood for a deep, dark, roasty beer, 9 times out of 10 I'll reach for a stout instead.” In today’s beer market there really is no genuine distinction between a Stout and a Porter. The reality is that the brewery picks one name or the other (Stout or Porter) based upon some whim. If you are really bored you can read the innumerable threads where folks have asked: What’s the difference between a Stout and Porter? Lots of folks participate on those threads but the simple answer to that question is that today there really is no difference (there was a difference between a Stout and a Porter in Britain in the 18th/19th centuries).

    The porters that I would recommend: Founders Porter, Deschutes Black Butter Porter, Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald.

    Cheers!
     
  7. victory4me

    victory4me Initiate (0) Oct 16, 2004 Pennsylvania

    WTF?

    I prefer porters to stouts. Sometimes I want a lower alcohol, full flavored beer. Porters provide that. I'm actually not the biggest fan of imperial stouts, but would never ask "Why stouts?"

    It's rather narcissistic to assume the beer word revolves around your tastes, don't you think?
     
  8. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Thin and watery porters are definitely drag but just avoid those and drink better ones. Im gonna be drinking a lot of the Narragansett Porter (winter seasonal) this winter because its 16oz tall cans for like 8 bucks a sixer and its not thin and watery and pretty decent.
     
  9. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Do a blind tasting between, Founder's Porter, Edmund Fitz, and Black Butte vs. Sierra Nevada Stout, Obsidian Stout, and Shakespeare Stout.

    If you can accurately tell me which ones are the porters and which are stouts, and also find no merit in the Porter's, I will be impressed.
     
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  10. mrcraft

    mrcraft Grand Pooh-Bah (3,396) Dec 15, 2012 California
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    You're not wrong. I think there's semantics involved with blurred, cross-over between the two. Just drink what you enjoy. People will have different likes and dislikes, and that's quite okay.
     
  11. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Since when did porters get type-cast as "thin and watery?" I have seen that a few times on these boards in just the past few days. So stouts aren't thin and watery then? Ever had a Guinness?

    Regardless, this is all silly as porters and stouts are one in the same. If Founders called it Kentucky Breakfast Porter instead of Kentucky Breakfast Stout, I doubt we'd be having this conversation.
     
  12. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    porters are stouts.
     
  13. Stigs

    Stigs Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2005 Pennsylvania

    Why bother with Pales and IPAs either?! amirite
     
  14. Longstaff

    Longstaff Initiate (0) May 23, 2002 Massachusetts

    > 9 times out of 10 I'll reach for a stout

    As if there's a difference....
     
  15. RhyminBelmont

    RhyminBelmont Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Illinois

    Because victory at sea.
     
  16. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    Some are that way and some are roasty and robust. Stouts same way.
     
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  17. afi4lifer

    afi4lifer Zealot (744) Jan 20, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I don't think anyone who has tried Smuttynose Baltic Porter could ever agree with the sentiment of this thread!
     
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  18. trevorjk

    trevorjk Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2009 Netherlands

    Get some real Baltic Porters and you will never doubt porters again.
     
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  19. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    That's my point, it's not that porters are watery and thin, all beers can be watery and thin. "The watery (insert any style of beer) can be a drag."
     
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  20. radshoesbro

    radshoesbro Pundit (987) Dec 16, 2004 California

    Mad Guinessez yo!
     
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