Flower Power Freshness

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  1. jnardone235

    jnardone235 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2011 New Jersey

    I manage a bar and restaurant in Jersey and recently ordered a keg of Flower Power from my distributor. After receiving it, i noticed the born on date was last march. I called my rep and he apologized and did some checking, but said the newest kegs they had were from may. Anyone in the restaurant/bar industry have any experience with this? Is it just my shitty distributor not checking their inventory? Or is the problem with ithaca? I have a hard time believing that a really solid beer like flower power just wouldn't sell, and sit in the warehouse for 8 months. Any thoughts?
     
  2. nuckbuc

    nuckbuc Crusader (491) Dec 28, 2010 New York

    I don't know much about the bar business but that does not sound right at all. There should definitely be something fresh around.
     
  3. Thickfreakness

    Thickfreakness Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2010 New York

    I believe the lastest batch of bottles that I drank had a Feb or March '14 date. Maybe that's what's going on? Maybe it's just crazy fresh?
     
  4. Kadonny

    Kadonny Pooh-Bah (2,616) Sep 5, 2007 Florida
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    I think most kegs are marked with a kegging date, not a best by date.

    That's insane, I think your distributor is yanking your chain or doing a shitty job of selling a really excellent IPA to have kegs that old laying around.

    FYI here in SEPA my one distributor has a constant inventory of Flower Power in kegs and it's not near that old.
     
  5. JT99125

    JT99125 Initiate (0) May 7, 2013 New Jersey

    Depends on where in Jersey you are, but I have a hard time finding fresh Flower Power in south Jerz. When it pops up in stores around me, it's usually at the best by date notched on the label and the store just got it in. I don't get it. The only fresh Flower power I ever got was from the Box of Hops that was released more recently.
     
  6. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado


    Could it be that the brewery put all of the fresh Flower Power into the Box of Hops?
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am not in the NJ beer business but it seems to me that your local wholesale distributor who has the Ithaca account hoisted an old keg on you. Why that keg has been sitting around so long is quite a mystery to me. Can you return that keg to your distributor? If so, that is exactly what you should do. It would be irresponsible of you to serve an 8-9 month old IPA.

    While we are on this topic let’s discuss beer freshness and kegs. I have on multiple occasions have had draft beers at bars which tasted old/tired; beers like Pliny the Elder, Sculpin, etc. I used to have the mindset that if a beer was available on draft at a beer bar that it would be fresh. After my numerous bad experiences (and the details of this thread) I am convinced that just because the beer is on draft does not ensure that the beer is fresh.

    The last guardian of ensuring beer freshness is the beer bar person. jnardone235, please do not serve old beer to your customers!

    Cheers!
     
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  8. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Drinking a Flower Power at Deep Ellum in boston right now and it's definitely not fresh. This place is usually reliable but this beer is a boring pale ale at the moment, not the floral hoppy goodness I expect
     
  9. EnthusedAboutBeer

    EnthusedAboutBeer Pooh-Bah (1,889) May 13, 2013 New Jersey
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    I'm up in north jersey. The flower power around here right now has a best by notch on January and ithaca says flower power has a 3 month shelf life so it was bottled in october.
    Still pretty fresh at less than 2 months on the shelf
     
  10. John21

    John21 Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2013 Florida

    Same here picked up some flower power and it said best by Nov date ??? Wth ? Same with sculpin which was worst as it had a drink by Sept 30 date on it for $16 no thanks.
     
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  11. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    Just tapped a log last night that was kegged at the end of October.
     
  12. Lorianneb

    Lorianneb Pundit (919) Apr 27, 2012 New Jersey

    If the distributor is Hunterdon, they suck. They never know what they have and if you order something, it takes an eternity to get it in. I thought with the new owners, it would get better, but no.
     
  13. ivanho614

    ivanho614 Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2010 New Jersey

    I get my Ithaca from Highgrade (central jersey) and they are absolutely worthless, I have refused multiple kegs and bottles for being out of date. North Jersey has better luck with fresh Ithaca.
     
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  14. jnardone235

    jnardone235 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2011 New Jersey


    Oh it's already been returned. I just find it hard to believe that I can't get a fresh keg of it in. Really it's just that distributor that I have problems with. I wouldn't be too cynical about freshness of draft beer. Any bar that really cares about putting good beer on tap will usually take care of it. I have occasionally lost money by pulling kegs off that weren't empty because the beer didn't quite taste the way it should.

    My main curiosity was if this is an isolated incident with FP around me (central jersey), or whether it happens elsewhere.
     
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  15. jnardone235

    jnardone235 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2011 New Jersey

    Thanks for the input, I'm central jersey as well. I've come to understand over the last year that i've been ordering that high grade is useless.
     
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  16. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    North NJ here, too- and I am seeing the January notches lately. I just got some today, actually, and am looking forward to cracking a few!
     
  17. EnthusedAboutBeer

    EnthusedAboutBeer Pooh-Bah (1,889) May 13, 2013 New Jersey
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    Same here! I picked up a sixer to throw a few in a trade and I have a couple left.
    Can't wait to see how it goes down fresh. I always find it 3+ months old this is the first time getting it fresh.
     
  18. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I just opened one- it's quite nice but not the best (or freshest) I've had. You will enjoy these but definitely keep an eye out for when the next batch hits.
     
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  19. EnthusedAboutBeer

    EnthusedAboutBeer Pooh-Bah (1,889) May 13, 2013 New Jersey
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    Ah darn...I bet it is still great but yea I'll be on the lookout for that next batch.
    I need to taste that stuff at it's full potential
     
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  20. Jasonp79

    Jasonp79 Initiate (0) May 5, 2013 Florida

    And the creeker was awesome!
     
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