I want to like hops, promise!

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  1. Redneckwine

    Redneckwine Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 Washington

    Hi, guys and gals! I finally signed up on Beeradvocate after cruising reviews and the forums for about a month and I really enjoy the reviews and feedback. A month ago I randomly started becoming very interested in craft beers and now it's somewhat of an obsession, limited by funds unfortunately :slight_frown:, to try just about everything I can get my hands on. I've been drinking beer for the last 10 years or so, off and on, with little to no interest in quality/style/brand etc.

    To cut to the chase, hop forward beers just aren't doing it for me, but I REALLY want to like them, because I actually very much enjoy the citrusy, floral/fruity flavor profile of most hoppy beers. The killer is that bitter, lingering, just-licked-a-sappy-pine-tree character. I tried a beer on tap not too long ago called Tricerihops (Ninkasi Brewery I think) that almost made me sick. In all honesty, many high IBU beers don't bother me as long as they're balanced with big malt character. Is this an acquired taste that requires building tolerance for most? Or is the bitterness just love at first sip? Maybe there are people who never became fans of big hop character, even after giving it an honest shot? I don't want to limit myself in the beer universe and feel like I'm missing things; I want to be open to all styles. I am wondering how other people got acclimated to the bitterness.

    PS - I'm sure this threads been done before, probably many times for many different rookies, and I apologize for the monotony :slight_smile:
     
  2. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    OK, I'll bite, for a fellow Washingtonian.

    First, don't feel like you "should" like certain beers, styles or flavors. Hops are an acquired taste and some people never come around to liking them. That's OK.

    Second, it sounds like maybe it's the bitterness of the hops that's putting you off, but you like other hop characteristics. If that's the case, look for some good dry hopped pale ales and IPAs that have that citrusy, floral quality you enjoy but don't scour your tongue with IBUs. Three Floyds Zombie Dust is an excellent example of this; unfortunately you can't get it locally and trading for it might be tricky. Fremont's Cowiche Canyon is great too in this regard; unfortunately at this point you'll have to wait until next fall to get any.

    So in the meantime, try Fremont's Universale Pale and see if that does it for you. It's nice and floral and citrusy, but not too bitter. Another one you might enjoy is Laurelwood's Workhorse IPA. It's very hoppy but has a nice sweetness as a counterbalance. You can get both of these locally; they're cheap and they're good.

    I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot of great hoppy/not-too-bitter beers that are readily available. After all, you live in the hops mecca of the world. Just keep trying different ones and you'll figure out what you like and why.

    Best of luck exploring the wonderful world of beer! Cheers!
     
  3. WTKeene

    WTKeene Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2013 New Mexico

    Do your best to find some Heady Topper. I wasn't crazy about IPAs and hoppy beers until I had Heady. So much citrus it's insane. Also keep in mind that bitterness can fade as you get used to it. I drink some beers that are relatively hoppy (Tank 7, Prairie Standard, stuff like that), and I get virtually no bitterness at all. My BMC friends are overwhelmed by it because they aren't used to it. Just start drinking the hoppy stuff and if it's too bitter, just sip it slowly instead. DIPAs might be easier for you to deal with than IPAs because of their more prominent malt character, too.
     
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  4. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    Try some beers with non-pine hop profiles. Try a beer that uses only Nelson Sauvin hops for instance.
    Also try stuff that is less aggressively hoppy, hop forward APA with exotic fruit tasting hops.
    No need to like hop forward beers, it is the craze now but it is just one kind of beers.
     
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  5. Redneckwine

    Redneckwine Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 Washington

    Thanks for the suggestions guys, I appreciate it. I've been looking for a lot of the IPAs that are frequently name-dropped and gushed over on BA (Heady Topper, Zombie Dust, Pliny) but haven't been successful on that front yet. I figure those beers must be liquid crack with all the love they get; hopefully I'll get my hands on some soon. Needless to say, I've got my work cut out for me on the exploration and research front, and I'm really excited about it. It's like new world of goodness just opened up to me.

    I do see Fremont in most stores I've checked out, so I'll definitely check out Universale. Although I remember trying a bomber of their Interurban IPA and had a hard time getting through it, once again due to the sharp bitterness. So far I've only tried one DIPA, New Belgium's Rampant. Not really knowing what to expect from a DIPA, I was more or less expecting a massive hop bitter bomb, but I was wrong. I actually didn't find it all that bitter: it had an unexpected, cloying syrupy-ness character that I wasn't too stoked about and I'm not sure I'd buy it again. Is Rampant a good example of proper DIPA style?

    You guys are right though, I think a months worth of perusing BA forums has tweaked my perception about hop forward beers, like they are "THE" thing to be enjoying. Well, that and BCBS - never tried it but I'd love to based on the press it gets, doubt it distributes to my area though, haven't seen it around. Anyway, at least it's reassuring to know hoppy beers are somewhat of an acquired taste...hell, beer in general was an acquired taste 10+ years ago.
     
  6. infuturity83

    infuturity83 Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 Massachusetts

    Anything is an acquired taste...

    I echo the suggestion in the first reply to look for Dry-Hopped beers. You will get most of the citrusy/floral notes in the nose (a little in the taste), without that resiny, pine cone taste in the back of your throat.

    I will say that I was definitely not a Hops fan when I first got into beer. I was into heavy belgians and porters and such. Over the years, though, as my palette has developed, I have come to love a good hop-bomb.
     
  7. devlishdamsel

    devlishdamsel Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2009 Washington

    pick up some lagunitas! Hop stupid is insanely well balanced, affordable, and easy to find!
     
  8. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    I think that the hops will sneak up on you eventually. They are in every beer so if you like beer then you have some kind of taste for them already. The intensity of the bitterness abates as you get used to it and your perception of it changes from something loud and aggressive to something welcome and stimulating. Hops are many things, intoxicating to be sure but don't force yourself to like a style of beer. Just move to the next style and when your palate is ready, if ever, you will move to the next. Try some lagers & belgian styles. Pilsners have a bigger hop character than you might think so if you like those then you like hops.
     
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  9. KingSlayer

    KingSlayer Zealot (677) Dec 20, 2012 California

    bitterness is an adquired taste. what you seek is a lupulin threshold shift (google it)
    you just need to take it easy and go slow with bitters.
     
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  10. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
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    @Redneckwine You said you wanted something hoppy but with a strong malt backbone to counterbalance it. I would recommend DFH's classic 90 Minute IPA, which is one of the maltier IPAs and it is widely available. I realize you probably want to try a lot of the name dropped beers on here, but I would really suggest keeping it local early on. Get to know the breweries in your state and in looking for IPAs, which are best fresh, that is where you will find them. Also, I realize it is not an IPA, but fresh SN Bigfoot tastes like a malt bomb of an IPA and it is wonderful. It is one of my favorite beers.
     
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  11. willpedalforbeer

    willpedalforbeer Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2012 Missouri

    If you can get Bells Two Hearted in your area, I would recommend it. If was my doorway to craft. PS try to get it fresh.
     
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  12. Flashy

    Flashy Pooh-Bah (1,767) Oct 22, 2003 Vermont
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  13. DarkDragon999

    DarkDragon999 Maven (1,331) Feb 13, 2013 Rhode Island

    I have no idea how I got acclimated to the bitterness. It just happened slowly over time. You just cant force it.
     
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  14. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    Start with Double IPAs. I couldn't stand IPAs for a long time but now I can't get enough (I always have a log on-draft). DFH 90 is a good place to start.
     
  15. tbaker397

    tbaker397 Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 West Virginia

    Take your time and once a week try a new beer that you would like to try but whkle sticking with what you know you like in the meantime. As your journey into crafts beer 'gets some legs', so will your palate and suddenly something from 6 months ago that was a bitter resin bomb (by resin I mean that thick feeling on your tounge after a drink of a high ibu, ipa) is liquid gold. Just because ipa's, dipa's are the most popular style does not mean you HAVE to like them. We all have different palates, do not force or make yourself try to like these styles, drink what you like, and every week (or month or whaetever, depending on budget) try a new beer beer. The greatest part of craft beer is there is such a huge diversity of styles and hundreds of examples within each style that you will most definitely be able to find 'your beer', just enjoy the journey.
     
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  16. Harnkus

    Harnkus Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 New York

    People will tell you all bits of nonsense about how to acclimate, like baby steps and one day you can be like me bs, but the simple truth is that time will heal your ailing mouth..,,or it won't.

    Me personally, I've never felt compelled to like something that I don't like. Which is not to say I never came around on something I didn't , but I also never set out to get there as some sort of summit.
     
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  17. regularjohn

    regularjohn Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 New Jersey

    why force yourself to like a certain style....its just not natural. another perfect example of this is sours...i absolutely love them but i know some people cant stand them. to each his own
     
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  18. Pug

    Pug Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2012 Minnesota

    Don't worry about it. Just drink what you like, occasionally experiment and try the hoppier beers. See if your palate has changed. It does over time, but I don't know that I would force myself to drink stuff I don't enjoy just because lots of other people enjoy those styles.
     
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  19. CraftFan5

    CraftFan5 Pooh-Bah (2,264) May 14, 2013 New Jersey
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    I'm sorta in the same boat as OP; I've been drinking craft beer for the better part of a year, and I don't think my taste for hops has improved much, unless I haven't noticed. I guess, maybe, my feelings for hoppy bitterness have moved from disgust to tolerance. Baby steps. The only very hoppy beer I've actually enjoyed and would seek out again is Stone Enjoy By. For the first time I got all the piney, citrusy, grapefruit-y yumminess without the bitter bite. I'll be sure to pick up some more the next time it's available in NY.
     
  20. kerry4porters

    kerry4porters Maven (1,495) Dec 31, 2012 Arizona

    Check out Firestone Walker's Double Barrel Ale
     
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