Improper Lock

Help Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by rundownhouse, Dec 28, 2013.

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  1. rundownhouse

    rundownhouse Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2005 Tennessee

    In the Beer News forum, a thread about a C&D letter was under way. There were two fairly clear sides, as is usual, one siding with the brewer (little guy, no confusion, so funny!), and one with the corporation (has interests to protect, in the legal right). The thread had - arguably - devolved into off-topic discussion and was locked.

    That's all fine by me.

    What I disagree with is the message from Beer Advocate that one side was correct. Beer Advocate decided the thread should be locked because the reply from the small brewery was funny and excellent. The post in question:

    http://beeradvocate.com/community/t...cks-no-more-f-word.140975/page-3#post-2022429

    Is Beer Advocate going to take an editorial position on all such C&D cases going forward? Is the standard for which side Beer Advocate espouses going to be which response is funnier?
     
  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    I get a different interpretation from the lock down message.

    1) It was locked down because it was off topic. (Standard policy for the site.)

    And, the mod

    2) Personally agreed with those who thought the reply was funny but did not say it was correct or that that was the reason for the lock down.
     
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  3. infuturity83

    infuturity83 Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2009 Massachusetts

    I agree wholly with the above post.

    Nowhere does the mod say that the thread is being locked for editorial reasons, simply as a result of it being WAY off topic. I am of the belief that, had the thread stayed focused on the issue of copyright infringements/legal actions toward breweries, that it would have remained active.

    In fact, the very reason it was locked was due to editorial posting. People had moved on from the issue at hand, and instead spent the latter part of the thread discussing the way in which it was addressed, other funny things that could have been said, and/or criticizing its delivery and construction; none of which have *anything* to do with beer or beer-related discussions.

    Proper lock.
     
  4. mj81

    mj81 Savant (1,072) Sep 11, 2013 New Jersey
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    The way I look at it is that it's a flipping internet message board and people shouldn't get butthurt when the curators of the site lock something that they deem fitting to be locked. Life goes one and their reason for locking has no bearing on someone's personal life (if it does then it's time to reevaluate one's life) to the point that they should feel the need to soap box a thread about it.
     
  5. rightcoast7

    rightcoast7 Maven (1,330) Apr 2, 2011 Maine
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    A thread was started to discuss a brewery's response (alleged by OP to be humorous) to a C & D letter, which led to various responses arguing that it either: (a) was humorous, or (b) was immature and silly, and that's "way off topic" how? Good grief this site is heavy handed with the moderation. Whatever, I guess it always has been, but it's always seemed silly to me. Sometimes on the internet, as in real life, conversations take detours, who is it hurting?
     
  6. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I say lock 'em all - leave the OP "Beer News" story up but allow no replies and prevent these constant long, tedious trademark violation threads, which always quickly turn "non-beer" - full of the same bogus legal theories, quack political views, and ignorant opinions from the sh*thouse lawyers - beer geek division.

    But, hey, ya know, that's just my opinion. :grinning:
     
  7. rundownhouse

    rundownhouse Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2005 Tennessee

    Like I said, locking it is OK. I agree with jesskidden that those threads all have identical trajectories. It was editorializing in the final post that I had issue with. It would be nice to know up front that BA takes that stance as a company.

    And "soap box" is basically what the internet is. If making a thread on a low-traffic niche message board is soap-boxing, then I guess it's no surprise you'd drag out your soap box to complain about it.
     
  8. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    I really don't get the editorialized component from the mod's lockdown post. And I don't think there was anything wrong with locking that one down (per jesskidden and OP's sentiments), but I do agree that BA can occasionally be heavy-handed with the moderation.

    However, the example you've provided isn't one of those instances, I don't think.

    I'm more frustrated by the threads that seem to vanish into thin air for no apparent reason, deleting content that may have still been interesting. But hey, it's not my site, so I typically just shrug my shoulders and move on. As long as my reviews aren't being deleted, I can cope :sunglasses:
     
  9. Jason

    Jason Founder (0) Aug 23, 1996 Massachusetts

    99.9% of the threads that get deleted or locked out without an explination are one of the following - duplicate subject, ALL CAPS, abbreviations, this beer vs. that beer, threads that have veered off topic or have become too political/religious, and yes I will say it pointless threads. Many more examples but those are the most common.

    The site is free to use and 99.95% of grow adults like the way the keep our forums clean from the trash that usually infests the rest of the interwebs.

    The thread in discussion was becoming "off-topic" so it was locked. Simple as that.

    http://beeradvocate.com/community/t...cks-no-more-f-word.140975/page-3#post-2022429

    Locking this thread out now. ;-)
     
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