Death of "IPA"?

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Should the term IPA be a descriptor instead of a style?

Poll closed Feb 4, 2014.

  1. I know it means hoppy and I don't care if its a Russian Imperial Stout IPA

    75 vote(s)
    29.1%

  2. I'm sick of the term being added on to anything to denote a hoppy beer

    121 vote(s)
    46.9%

  3. I'd prefer the term High IBU or something like that

    25 vote(s)
    9.7%

  4. Bring back the term Bitter to denote high hopping

    18 vote(s)
    7.0%

  5. I've got a better idea, see my post

    28 vote(s)
    10.9%
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  1. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    The letters IPA have gotten out of hand in my humble opinion. Take Ruthless Rye for an example, it's a rye beer but is listed as an IPA. Don't even get me started on Black IPAs. Then I see a thread about an Imperial red rye IPA.
    Should we just can IPA as a style and relegate the letters to a descriptor? Malty, Sweet, Sour, IPA ish?
     
    #1 mudbug, Jan 28, 2014
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  2. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Maven (1,277) Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    When a commercial brewery sells a Russian imperial stout IPA, I may quit drinking beer.
     
    #2 offthelevel_bytheplumb, Jan 28, 2014
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  3. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    It's coming. The marketers have no souls
     
    #3 mudbug, Jan 28, 2014
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  4. DaltonC

    DaltonC Initiate (0) Oct 10, 2013 Idaho

    It's fine, leave it as is.
     
    #4 DaltonC, Jan 28, 2014
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  5. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Maven (1,277) Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    Do you think it will be before or after the doppelbock IPA?
     
    #5 offthelevel_bytheplumb, Jan 28, 2014
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  6. KS1297

    KS1297 Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2013 Wisconsin

    For a long time anything bitter or hoppy tasted like an ipa to me. I think thats the case for a lot if noobs. If most craft drinkers are noobs we will probably continue to see "ipa" at the end of every bitter/hoppy beer.
     
    #6 KS1297, Jan 28, 2014
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  7. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    Hard to say, both will probably be edged out by the Imperial Smoked Wild Belinerwiess IPA
     
    #7 mudbug, Jan 28, 2014
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  8. KS1297

    KS1297 Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2013 Wisconsin

    Probably around the same time as the imperial barleywine ipa.
     
    #8 KS1297, Jan 28, 2014
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  9. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    That's exactly what I'm getting at. To you it was a descriptor of a taste, not a style.
     
    #9 mudbug, Jan 28, 2014
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  10. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Maven (1,277) Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    They might all get beat out by the gruit IPA.
     
    #10 offthelevel_bytheplumb, Jan 28, 2014
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  11. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    My money is on the Chicha IPA
     
    #11 mudbug, Jan 28, 2014
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  12. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Maven (1,277) Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    All kidding aside, you may have a point. New Holland makes a dry hopped tequila.
     
    #12 offthelevel_bytheplumb, Jan 28, 2014
  13. SLOCruzin

    SLOCruzin Zealot (644) Sep 30, 2013 California
    Trader

    Storm King is pretty close IMO
     
    #13 SLOCruzin, Jan 28, 2014
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  14. KS1297

    KS1297 Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2013 Wisconsin

    yes until i learned and matured a little bit more in the beer realm. Maybe its just a fase the beer community is going thru right now since such a high proportion of craft drinkers are relatively new converts.
     
    #14 KS1297, Jan 28, 2014
  15. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    ISO Tequila IPA
     
    #15 mudbug, Jan 28, 2014
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  16. offthelevel_bytheplumb

    offthelevel_bytheplumb Maven (1,277) Aug 19, 2013 Illinois

    I think it has great balance for a Russian imperial stout IPA.
     
    #16 offthelevel_bytheplumb, Jan 28, 2014
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  17. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    Here is the rub, IPA has become a kind of "safe" non threatening descriptor for what used to be called "bitters" I blame Miller for the slander. The fact that the craft industry has bought on to this is embarrassing. But on we go. English is an evolving language, meanings change like the breeze and IPA will lose its roots and become an adverb
     
    #17 mudbug, Jan 28, 2014
  18. BKBassist

    BKBassist Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2013 New York

    I'd just prefer "hoppy" added to the description. Just recently had Two Brothers Night Cat which said right on the can "hoppy dark wheat beer". Could they have thrown some kind of IPA in the description and made it ungainly? Probably, but I'm glad they didn't!
     
    #18 BKBassist, Jan 28, 2014
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  19. BKBassist

    BKBassist Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2013 New York

    Maybe American use, yes, but bitter and IPA evolved separately in English beer culture, and are different to this day. Anyone with a decent knowledge of British beer can tell the difference.
     
    #19 BKBassist, Jan 28, 2014
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  20. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
    Pooh-Bah

    Aw crap. You've let the cat out of the bag.:wink:
     
    #20 Zimbo, Jan 28, 2014
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