BCS variants tasting help!

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  1. zrab11

    zrab11 Maven (1,450) Dec 25, 2010 Indiana
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    Im guessing some midwest plp have re so im reaching out to you for advice

    So I'm doing a BCS variant tasting for about 10 plp. 4 are beeradvocate plp and 6 are just craft beer lovers.

    So i have a few questions


    1. Would you bring any other beer into the tasting to break up all the big strong beer flavors ? Or will water suffice?(the point isnt to get hammered but im sure we will really feel it.)
    just wondering if a nice saison or sour might do some good to break up all the heavy stout flavor..or would it best to stay with just water?


    2. I need help with the order to drink these in- this is the order I was thinking of doing them in.

    Rare
    Vanilla

    Proprietors
    Bramble Rye

    Cherry Rye
    Backyard Rye

    Coffee
    2009 bcs bomber

    I have King henry and BCS Barelywine but might leave those out as there will be a lot of big beers we will be drinking.

    2a. Is this a good order or would you switch anything around? I have no rhyme or reason to why I picked this order . My only thought was I would like to try rare,vanilla and proprietors on a fresh palate as those are the only ones i have never had. But I'm open to switching this up.

    2b. Also my plan was to pop 2 at a time instead of all at once. my thought behind this is two fold. First all the other beers stay at a good temp while we sip on the two which are popped.second just incase are tastedubs are too assulted to pop one open we havent wasted a beer by deciding to pop them all at once. Is this a good way to go about it?or should i pop them all at once?

    3. I have 33 mini sniftners. Enough for 3 a person. Do you think this is fine to give everyone 3 glasses that way they can leave some of 1 or 2 variants in a glass and move on? Or should i go out and get 100 plastic 4oz cups so everyone would have the possibility to leave alittle bit of each beer in a glass(actually plastic :wink: )

    4.Im providing pretzels, french bread and crustinis with proscitto and a mild white chesse. I dont want any overpowering foods as i really want the beers to shine but i want alittle something for plp to snack on. So is there anything u would add or take away

    5. Any other advice anyone thinks i missed and would be helpful?

    Btw everyone has a DD and all beers are in my temp controlled cellar (50-55)

    Hopefully some of you have done a tasting like this and can be of some help to really make this go well!
     
  2. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    We did an 09-2013 tasting with a few variants and about 4 people. It was wayyy too much and I felt each would have been better appreciated individually. I'm very glad we did it and it was a great experience, but it was overwhelming for sure.

    With that said I think your order is fine. I would just go for it with some water and non salted crackers. If you want beer in-between go for a light Blond or something.
     
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  3. edmaher

    edmaher Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2008 Illinois

    Serving a King Henry would be reckless after all those stouts. Send it to me and I'll hang onto it for you. :grinning:
     
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  4. Mjmoser

    Mjmoser Initiate (0) May 6, 2012 Illinois

    Toss in some of the sisters( to keep with GI theme) to help break it up and to clean your palettes. I agree with Erik though, we did 7-12 with every variant ( including multiple years of the sisters) in my tasting group and while fun, I learned I could give 2 shits about a vert anymore. Would have been better in smaller groups.

    Edit: KH was the last thing we drank and I don't even remember it. So don't feel like you need to kill them all.
     
  5. jb3304

    jb3304 Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2012 Illinois
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    Sounds like an awesome tasting! The only thing I would possibly change is to pair up Bramble and Backyard. Only reason being that I keep hearing so many people comparing the 2 it would be nice to do given that you have both available.

    Regardless, can't go wrong with all those great beers.

    Cheers!
     
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  6. forrestbetts

    forrestbetts Zealot (551) Nov 29, 2007 Illinois

    shitshow @tenchar
     
  7. incubuscience

    incubuscience Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2012 Illinois



    Did a similar but wayyy more substantial (complete horizontal and vertical BCS and variants 07-present) tasting a couple months back and what you've got going on sounds good with just a couple personal preference notes.

    -I'd do rare, vanilla, prop side by side. We did this. It seemed to work really nicely. It's an easy way to evaluate and destinfuish the more subtle variants. And you're right, start off with the best on a fresh palate.

    -I'd do 2009 bomber solo next. This was everyone's favorite of the regulars. Huge vanilla notes. Right in its prime. Doing it vs coffee will hide alk the nicely balanced flavors and make it seem a lit like "here's regular vs coffee"

    -Bramble vs backyard for sure if you're looking for a pair. Those are the most similar, as far as evaluation goes. And it's interesting to see just how ready-to-drink backyard is vs bramble being still just a tad aggressive even after a couple years. Throw in cherry as a 3rd option if you like, or do it by itself. We personally poured all 3 together. Most people left cherry til the end (after an initial taste with the group) because it was so different. But that allowed the cherry pie filling a dconnamon to really shine. -drinking it solo, that is.

    -then coffee

    -then Barleywine.

    Sane your KH and lead with it at the next tasting.

    -get extra plastic cups. One if my buddies wanted to let all his hit room temp, and had like 17 cups. Glad he did, Vanilla and prop were hands-down winners at room temp.

    -food sounds good

    Skip the other "palate cleansing beers" or save them til the end. Water and pretzels cleanse the palate just fine; and you're only wasting good beers if you add any more in-between. But if you have them and people are still interested, you can break them out at the end. I just knew that by the time we even got halfway through our set some of us were regretting opening everything together. You know what they say: serve the good wine first, and when everyone's drunk break out the two buck chuck...
     
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  8. incubuscience

    incubuscience Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2012 Illinois

    -typos courtesy of a tiny screen...
     
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  9. JamesShoemaker

    JamesShoemaker Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2012 Michigan

    @zrab11 We just did an IPA tasting and unsalted saltines really did the trick. They provide a substantive but not overwhelming amount of carbs to help with the alcohol and they seem to wipe the palate better than anything else I've tried.

    I wouldn't want any other beers interrupting such a godmode lineup.
     
  10. fishmich

    fishmich Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2013 Michigan

    i suggest not doing any palate cleansing beers. ive done this with a couple of the sisters and it was a mistake. the tartness from those beers make it difficult to taste anything. like people have said id go with water and crackers. another tip id say is to take it slow. its easy to get anxious and want to try the next beer but i say take it slow and also allow some time in between each beer. have fun, sounds like a good time.
     
  11. myersk27

    myersk27 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2011 Indiana

    we did 05-13 standard and all of the variants....in total it was like 45 bottles because we had multiples of everything except 05-06 and KH, between 14-16 people. Highly recommend taking your time, no palate cleansing beers, have a lot of crackers and snacks on hand, and drink plenty of water. Also would def recommend having multiple cups for people who want to save sips and see how things taste as they warm up. we had 3 bottles of Rare and it was cool to pop one at the beginning, save a few sips and open another bottle an hour later and see the differences. As long as you take your time going through these bottles, the order shouldn't matter a whole lot. I liked doing the standard vertical and the Rare together, but if you aren't doing standard BCS then I like the idea of doing Rare with Vanilla, but i might also put the 09 bomber in that group. After those I would go Prop and only prop. then do the Cherry, Bramble, and Backyard. Finish with Coffee.

    I agree on saving the King Henry and BW for a separate tasting. Do an all BW tasting sometime.

    Sounds like fun man!! Interested to hear how it goes!
     
  12. myersk27

    myersk27 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2011 Indiana

    I really liked doing the Cherry, Bramble, and Backyard all at the same time.
     
  13. quinnsi

    quinnsi Zealot (623) Nov 22, 2008 Illinois

    I'd do Rare, '09 and '13 side=by-side-by-side to start out. Then the variants. See how an aged version stacks up to rare, and then all of them vs the fresh. It also sets a good baseline for the beer. Then you can explore how adding things to that beer affects it. My 2ยข
     
  14. zrab11

    zrab11 Maven (1,450) Dec 25, 2010 Indiana
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    Thanks so much for the advice guys!

    Btw two of my friends just dropped out of this event! So if anyone is Close to MUNCIE IN or wants to make the drive u are welcome to join in this tasting..
    Will start tomorrow March 8th at 4pm! :-)
    BM me for details if u really would like to come

    Thanks everyone again for advice!
    I'll let u know how it goes
     
  15. myersk27

    myersk27 Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2011 Indiana

    make sure you take a family photo afterwards.....this was ours
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  16. 0zzzie19

    0zzzie19 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2008 Illinois

    I'd agree with most everything said here, especially skipping "palate cleansing" beers. Its going to be a waste of great beer and won't have your desired affect. I'd also add that when I've done these extensive tastings, it is super duper helpful to have a recent non-variant actually throughout the entire tasting. With so much flavor your palate is going to get really desensitized. Always having that regular BCS to compare really helps you pull out the differences between the variants and regular.
     
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  17. darkwing1

    darkwing1 Zealot (574) May 13, 2013 Illinois
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    Interesting info...looking to do a 2013 horizontal along with a few randoms from previous years pretty soon. My main question was weather or not to open with Proprietors, but based on the above, I would say yes.
     
  18. mdomask

    mdomask Initiate (0) May 27, 2012 Illinois

    Meh, open with the base. Compare variants from there.
     
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  19. rxeight

    rxeight Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2012 Illinois

    Dont be this guy
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  20. incubuscience

    incubuscience Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2012 Illinois

    This was at my tasting @zrab11. I can agree with @rxeight; don't be that guy. Nobody likes that guy. Nobody.
     
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