Beers that were "better" last year

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  1. butters_mcgee

    butters_mcgee Pooh-Bah (1,857) Feb 26, 2014 New York
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    I'm not referring to aging beers, rather the statement that a certain beer is 'good', but not, 'as good' as it was last year, or previous years.

    I was excited to get to try beers for the first time like Nugget Nectar and Great Lakes X-Mas Ale in the past couple years and this year Hopslam. But often hear people say how much better they were in years past.

    Do you think your perception of how a beer should be changes your opinion of how it is?
    Do you find that trying to recall how a beer was in years past obfuscates how you feel about it now?

    I recall how much I liked the Ithaca IIPA years ago, but when I recently had the Creeker all I could do is reminisce about how good the double IPA used to be.

    also, new to the boards and haven't been able to piece together what BMC stands for. (bud, miller, coors??)

    Thanks and cheers!!
     
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  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Hop-heavy beers are by their very nature volatile things. Batch variation happens- and often enough from month to month within the same year. The best breweries will vary within a narrow range, but a range nonetheless. Having one negative experience and somehow extrapolating it to cover some general trend may be tempting, but that's not really what we should be doing. Crowd-sourcing info can be a good thing, as long as we are realistic about it and are just sharing notes on that particular batch, and not slamming the whole brewery or that particular beer.

    Still- some years do trend better than others, but a lot of that has to do with the source materials. That's OK, though- if you don't like it this year, then you may love it the next one.

    Anyway- welcome to BA, and you do have BMC correct.
     
  3. carlitos92

    carlitos92 Zealot (599) Jul 12, 2012 Texas

    This brings to mind annual/seasonal releases which, even if based on the same recipe and premise, can vary from year to year - just like wine from the same vineyard but of different vintages.

    For me, the biggest let down recently was Black Butte XXV... Had the XXIV in 2012 and it knocked my socks off. IMHO the 2013 version was cheap soy sauce in comparison. Did I drink both of them too fresh? Probably. But they were equally abused, so it's a fair comparison nonetheless.

    Then there are also the subjective tricks our minds play on us. When the big Foster's oil can started getting imported from Canada rather than Australia, I lost interest. Does it taste the same? No idea. I'm not sure I can even render an unbiased opinion. Same for Kirin Ichiban. I grabbed some to enjoy with supermarket sushi one night and then quickly put it back in the cooler when I noticed it wasn't made in Japan any longer, but rather California. Yuck. :wink:
     
  4. tikk

    tikk Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2007 Canada (YT)

    Of course it does, sometimes we think a particular beer should be like something else in the style, instead of enjoying it for what it is. I catch myself doing it in reviews and in recommendations.
    Absolutely our palates and tastes change, and sometimes we look to the past with rose tinted glasses.
    I used to love Sam Adams Cherry Wheat and thought it was the greatest beer ever. Now I can't stand it, but I look back and remember it as the greatest beer.
    I get there are yearly differences and fluctuations between batches, but the batches can't get worse every year as you often see on this site.

    Just drink the beer and enjoy it for what it is.
    Cheers,
    Tikk
     
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  5. Josbor11

    Josbor11 Initiate (0) Dec 21, 2013 Ohio

    Good example of this is Great Lakes Chillwave. Last year as Alchemy Hour...it was miles ahead.
     
  6. bevoduz

    bevoduz Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2007 Illinois

    Hopslam
     
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  7. DrStiffington

    DrStiffington Grand Pooh-Bah (3,740) Oct 27, 2010 New Jersey
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    According to the forums on this website, the answer is "every one."
     
  8. Blueribbon666

    Blueribbon666 Pooh-Bah (1,669) Jul 4, 2008 Ohio
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    Haven't had this year's version, Chillwave, but I've heard the opposite, that Chillwave is better than Alchemy Hour was last year.
     
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  9. Blueribbon666

    Blueribbon666 Pooh-Bah (1,669) Jul 4, 2008 Ohio
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    I'll take "cliche's of a beer nut" for $200, Alex:rolling_eyes:...The music equivalent of course being, "Their last album was better..."
     
  10. sixpointfive

    sixpointfive Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 Texas

    I believe that our memory of how a beer tastes is what is most likely more different than the actual "difference" in a beer batch to batch.
     
  11. dougfur

    dougfur Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2011 New York

    Surely our tastes change a bit, but there is no doubt in my mind that hoppy ales vary substantially from batch to batch. Nugget nectar and Heady Topper both come to mind as beers that seem to vary quite a bit.
     
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  12. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    Maybe it's just people having better access to better beers, this year more than last year- and last year the beer was more impressive compared to the other beers they were drinking, but this year they've had so much of the same style that it all starts to taste the same.
     
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  13. mellowmark

    mellowmark Savant (1,018) Mar 31, 2010 Utah

    If only someone would invent a time machine we could put this discussion to rest.
     
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  14. opwog

    opwog Initiate (0) Jun 16, 2008 Minnesota

    Hopefully, that is not the case and may be a perception thing, influenced by the required name change. There would be no requirement for them to change the recipe, so except for modest changes a beer can usually see from year to year, in theory, there shouldn't be anything different. And given that consistency is one of Great Lakes strengths, I wouldn't really expect any difference. At least this is all what I am hoping for, because that beer was one of my top 5 "wow" beers after moving to the Midwest last year.
     
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  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    To me its just a pretentious beer snob trend.
    This years ten fidy and uncle jacobs stout both blew last years out of the water as did odell red.
     
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  16. Mshull

    Mshull Initiate (0) Mar 26, 2013 Ohio

    I thought sucks was a bit off this year, still amazing but tasted better last year
     
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  17. icefisherman

    icefisherman Zealot (660) Sep 1, 2004 Minnesota
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    All of them were way better last year. Even the Miller lite taste better last year, and even better back with the original vortex bottle.
     
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  18. NYR_Rob

    NYR_Rob Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Nugget nectar
     
  19. fastenoughforphish

    fastenoughforphish Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2012 Illinois

    Incorrect. Please try again next year.
     
  20. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    Boy howdy, ain't that the truth. It never seems to occur to many on this site that it just might possibly maybe be their memory of last year's beer, especially if it was the first time they had it. "I was really blown away the first time I tried it, but this year it just isn't as impressive." Couldn't be the consumer, must be the beer.

    There was a thread a few months ago speculating that Great Lakes had changed their recipe for Nosferatu because it "just didn't taste the same" Besides the brewery changed the descriptor, from "stock ale" to "imperial red ale" meaning they must have changed the recipe. So I e-mailed GL and asked. They said the recipe was the same, the descriptor was changed for marketing purposes.
     
    #20 5thOhio, Mar 8, 2014
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