Bad Trader Alert: Founder26

Next time do a Request Trade (through the trading system) once a deal is agreed upon, and then don't assume you have a trade set up until they've accepted your request.

 

A) I'd like to hear the other side.
B) While if true this constitutes somebody I wouldn't want to trade with, you're not out any beer or money.
C) As someone just posted, there's no trade request, no trade.
D) If you didn't get a message through BA (same thing has happened to me a few times) & he said he didn't want to do the trade, that should be the end of it.

I hate these threads. If everyone put out there every time they had a lousy experience trying to set up a trade, this forum would be littered with b.s. & (even more) drama with the back-and-forth about who's to blame. I wish we could save these threads for scum who steal beer, not just a-holes who don't follow through on trades.

On the other hand, these threads are usually very enlightening as to people I don't ever want to trade with, often in both directions.

 

The trade reneging aside, the fact that he's trying to sell KBS at a profit shows what kind of a true "beer advocate" you're dealing with here.

 

I usually don't advise to out people when nothing is lost, but I feel this is different in that the trader seems to want to set up "trades" to sell beers at a markup. That's a big no-no and definitely someone the rest of the community should know about.

 

(A) Well, just expect this to descend into nastiness. 83.7% chance this thread gets deleted.
(B) I've had this happen to me probably two dozen times over the years. Get over it. Just put them in your personal "crappy" file & move on. Because I'm about 98.4% certain he feels the same way about you.
(C) There was no agreement. And trying to force somebody to live up to something they changed their mind about...well, if accurate, he's a dick, but how do you expect that to have a good outcome? Again, move on. That's almost never going to end well, & you need to recognize that.
(D) Not a good decision, & that makes multiples.

 

The fact is we never agreed to anything, I asked matt how many kbs he would want for a huna, he said 4, I asked what day he would be there, then after his response I told him I didn't really need a huna but would be nice and sell him a 4 pk, remember guys he came to me about this thread and we never agreed to anything. Also I never told him how much I would sell him the kbs for, just told him I wouldn't sell it for what I paid for it do to gas driving there, time lost, ect... matt just seems angry that he can't trade his huna to me so he's making up a bunch of stuff.

And of course matt jenkins comes in here to bail out his buddy, surprised raymo hasn't joined yet!

 

Would possibly give you he benefit of the doubt on the specifics of the trade, but selling for more than cost because of time, travel, etc, not cool of you at all. Not to mention selling beer against the trading rules here.

 

Sounds like an annoying experience (e.g. the phantom "last message"), but I think that a reasonable person could interpret that no deal was agreed upon here. When you told him that you'd be willing to do the Huna for KBS, he did say "Ok...", which you interpreted to be "OK, deal" whereas I could see it being "ok, I understand that's what you're willing to do...now when will you be in GR?" (still getting details to see if it's something he wants to do). At best, he needs to be much more forthright in his communication, but I think there's at least a possibility he never intended to agree to the deal.

 

How am I "bailing out my buddy?" All I did was state my opinion on what a shady move it is to try to sell KBS for more than retail, which you yourself admitted to doing. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Dude I've done multiple trades and haven't really had any issues with people until now, you just assumed a deal was made because I said ok, but then I kept asking you when you would be in gr. And common guys grow up, I didn't say I want 100 dollars for a 4pk, but I owe nothing to this guy, he is already getting kbs, if he struck out I would probably help him out, after all of this I see no reason why I should? I don't see any of you guys jumping up and down saying you'll sell your kbs for at cost!

 

Tell ya what matt, you meet up with me either friday or saturday in gr ill buy ya a pour of kbs, make this water under the bridge, sound good?

 

Bro....don't blame everyone for your terrible beer edicate.

@mattvandyk if you are still looking for some KBS....I can help you out...and with no markup for stuff like fuel or breakfast or for my shoes that I had to wear while at the brewery.

 

You ain't no saint yourself, and my offer still stands matt.

 

What's funny is matt said he never got the message that I told him I didn't want the huna but would sell him some kbs because he said his wife loved it so much, you didn't respond back so I just left the trade, you claimed you didn't get the message...