Clear growlers?

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  1. BraveBrewWorld

    BraveBrewWorld Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2014 New York

    I recently took a trip to a local craft brewery, then wrote and reviewed my experience on my blog. I enjoyed what I found there, but I noted two things that stuck out to me as strange choices: they served their beer in plastic cups and they sold their beer in clear growlers. Honestly, the plastic cups seemed to be the worse offense because, while I can understand clear growlers are probably cheaper and you shouldn't really be holding onto growlers too long anyway, I thought the brewery was only hurting itself by serving their own beer in plastic cups.

    The owner responded and said there was some sort of permit process hindering him from serving beer in glasses (which honestly sounds strange, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since I know nothing on that matter). However, he claimed that if I knew about beer then I'd know why they opted for clear growlers. I thought I had a good grasp on the "why clear glass is bad" debate, but after further research, I can't find much justifying clear growlers. I asked him, but got no response. Can anyone help me out here with an explanation?

    Cheers.
     
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  2. mverity

    mverity Initiate (0) Oct 6, 2012 Florida

    No earthly idea about why anyone would want clear glass over brown glass for their growlers.
     
  3. BraveBrewWorld

    BraveBrewWorld Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2014 New York

    That's exactly how I felt! I've been racking my brain about it...I've got a whole conspiracy theory connecting newspaper clippings on a corkboard in my room and still nothing makes sense
     
  4. JasonLovesBeer

    JasonLovesBeer Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2013 Canada (BC)

    All signs point to the fact the guy's full of shit. Of the dozens of craft breweries I've been to, none have had clear glass and I'm reasonably certain there is not a single benefit to clear glass other than seeing what colour your beer is before pouring it.

    As for pouring into plastic cups, that's just sad.
     
  5. BraveBrewWorld

    BraveBrewWorld Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2014 New York

    They do make some pretty solid beers so I can't knock them in that sense, but just a few things that seemed too off. The only "benefit" I read about clear growlers is, like you alluded to, people filling the growlers can see how full the growlers are and cut the tap in time, preventing spillage. I forget where I found that notion, but their justification was that spilled beer is undrinkable beer, therefore bad. Can't argue with that logic, but I'd rather lose a few drops than a whole growler from light pollution (or just pay for an eye exam for whoever's filling growlers).

    Then again, these are all costs that the brewery has to take into account, so who knows when it comes quality versus overhead.
     
  6. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    Never really had a problem with any beers I purchased with clear glass growlers. Mind you, they were pretty much all consumed within 6 hours of purchase & never exposed to light or warmer temps
     
  7. BraveBrewWorld

    BraveBrewWorld Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2014 New York

    That was my original thought, that I really shouldn't be holding onto a growler long enough so that light pollution becomes an issue anyway. I can understand that and how clear growlers are probably cheaper, so for a brewery it make sense financially, I just wasn't sure if I was missing something bigger that I should be aware of.
     
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  8. JasonLovesBeer

    JasonLovesBeer Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2013 Canada (BC)

    Agree that in some fill systems you need to be able to see the beer level, but the standard brown tinted glass will allow you to do that just fine.

    It's rarely going to be an issue either way with growlers since they are so short-term as you say, but I was put off by the guy saying "if you knew about beer you'd know". That's just dumb.
     
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  9. WelshBrewer

    WelshBrewer Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2013 Oregon

    Any one that said to me "if I knew anything about beer I would know why they used clear growlers" without explaining why is a douch bag, and I would have told him to shove his clear growler up his ass, regardless of the quality of his brew.
     
  10. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    What scares me more: Growlers with no bottled/sealed on date...
     
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  11. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Because you weren't there to verify?
     
  12. ONovoMexicano

    ONovoMexicano Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2012 New Mexico

    Was this Brooklyn Brewery with their bullshit beers in plastic cups? Santa Fe Brewing sells clear growlers too. The truth is, a beer in a growler, to my thinking, should be drank pretty quickly so the fear of light damage from a clear growler isn't a factor.

    However, a clear growler is a sad, sad, sight. They remind me of that old perv on Family Guy.
     
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  13. Jugs_McGhee

    Jugs_McGhee Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,140) Aug 15, 2010 Texas
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    Does anyone know if Alesmith still serves their beer into plastic cups? That always bothered the crap out of me, but I haven't been back since I moved out of California a year ago.
     
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  14. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    See them in stores/brewpubs in various states. We're not all up in the center of the universe...
     
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  15. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    I have never seen a growler I couldn't get the same beer of it another form at at a bottle shop. If this isn't common, then the center of the universe is pretty sweet.
     
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  16. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Well, there is this:

    “Lightstruck - While this defect is well known in both odor, taste and origin, it is sometimes not realized how little exposure can produce a noticeable lightstruck character. ... Bottled beer can become lightstruck in less than one minute in bright sun, after a few hours in diffuse daylight and in a few days under normal fluorescent light.”
    ---The Practical Brewer, Master Brewers' Association of the Americas [1977]
    So, for those above claiming they drink their growlers fast enough to prevent skunking, that "less than one minute" in direct sunlight makes for quite of chugging.

    OTOH, that can be easily prevented by putting the growler in a paper bag for the walk to the car - really paranoid people (like me) might want to keep it in the bag once home and in the refrigerator - while most fridge lights are incandescent bulbs, all that opening and closing of the door that goes on in some households, letting in more light, could mean trouble :wink:.​
     
  17. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Lagunitas uses clear, which in my book makes it ok.
     
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  18. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Honestly. Learn the other side of beer as a business and then make your informed decision.
    From an insurance perspective. Having the beer served in plastic, non breakable cups is certainly a reality that could simply be a coverage issue which permits some things and will not allow others. Remember, you are consuming alcohol in a light industrial area with moving parts, chemicals and things that can kill you or cause serious bodily harm if you happen to be the type of idiot that gets into things they are not supposed to because you refuse to listen to the tourguide, or are burped out of a beer bus and think it is your beer entitled right.
    From a safety perspective as a worker, I do not want the possibility of breakable MOOP left in my work area where moving machinery can vibrate them off.
     
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  19. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    How do you explain the 99% of other breweries who serve their beer in glasses? Or almost every bar who serves their beer in glasses?
     
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  20. jefffalcone

    jefffalcone Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 Massachusetts

    Nobody likes the plastic cup thing. There has to be a valid reason he can't use glasses. Clear growlers, I can't wrap my head around. Since everyone charges the customer for glass, cost shouldn't be a factor, unless they are trying to squeeze a few cents extra profit into glass sales.
     
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