Do you rate beers you don't like?

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  1. snowen21

    snowen21 Aspirant (295) Jan 16, 2014 Michigan
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    for example, I really do not care for Founders Red's Rye but I realize that it is a well-crafted beer and a lot of people like it so instead of giving it a poor rating i just didn't rate it.
     
  2. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    I rate everything. You can dislike it even if a lot of other people don't.
     
  3. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    Yes, long story short. Every beer is an experience... sometimes not great unfortunately.
     
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  4. Thoroughbred88

    Thoroughbred88 Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2014 Illinois

    Absolutely people should rate if they don't like it. If people only rated stuff they liked, the ratings would not be legitimate since biases would occur.

    How many people rate stuff only that they like?
     
  5. Iamjeff6

    Iamjeff6 Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2013 Virginia

    What’s up with all the rating threads lately.
     
  6. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Not really. If I already know I don't like them its not worth the trouble to buy them and tell myself and others that I don't like them.
     
  7. mellowmark

    mellowmark Savant (1,018) Mar 31, 2010 Utah

    Biases occur either way.
     
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  8. Thoroughbred88

    Thoroughbred88 Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2014 Illinois


    Completely wrong. A rating system is just that, a rating system. People should be aware of the best beer, the worst beer, and everything in between.

    Many use the rating system as a way to decide future purchases. I want to know if a beer is too strong of coffee and if it's not i.e.
     
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  9. Thoroughbred88

    Thoroughbred88 Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2014 Illinois

    Not if people post the good and the bad. Statistically speaking, the good and the bad get mixed together for one beer then the rating numbers result. Once a good enough sample occurs of people who like and don't like the beer, then it's a judgement of how little or how much they liked it (or how much or how little they disliked it). If people are only going to post what they like, the ratings are going to be skewed towards higher ratings.
     
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  10. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Absolutely. I encourage you to review beers you don’t like even if your opinion doesn’t match the masses. As long as you feel you’re being thorough, objective about it, and understand the style.

    On that note, if the beer is a style you don’t ever like, that’s a different question.
     
  11. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Similar to how I didn't think much of Founders Harvest Ale...but it didn't keep me from rating it, I gave it a 4. I admit I am kind of style biased toward IPAs because I'm such a hophead and I rarely meet one that I absolutely don't like. Combine that with being slightly biased toward the breweries I love and, yeah, it's hard to be truly subjective but, in the end, I say just try to rate fairly and trust your gut. Oh and, to answer the OP, yes I rate all beers.
     
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  12. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Completely wrong??? Who says I should go buy a beer I already know I won't like and rate it. I've better ways to spend my time and money. I'll buy beer if I expect to like it and I'll rate it as I experience it but there's no way I'm choosing drink a beer I know I don't like just so I can put ratings on a consumer oriented web site.

    Edit: Unless the Bros. or someone else begins to pay me to do it.
     
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  13. mellowmark

    mellowmark Savant (1,018) Mar 31, 2010 Utah

    Yes, I understand how it would work. Is it out of the realm of possibility there are those who only rate beer they don't like? There are also those who negatively rate beer based on preconceived notions which impact their perception. This would be considered a bias in the other direction, hence biases occur either way.
     
  14. Thoroughbred88

    Thoroughbred88 Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2014 Illinois

    Not at all saying to go out of your way and purchase something you knowingly will not like. I'm saying you should rate all beers that you try. i.e. I really like Coffee stouts. I'm going to try lots of coffee stouts and rate them. Some will be better than others, some will be absolute garbage. It's only fair that I rate all of them in accordance to each other in the same category. It's difficult for one to access the rating of a pale ale compared to an IPA. Too much apples to oranges type deal going on there
     
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  15. jcos

    jcos Pundit (802) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    I would think, especially after you got a few ratings under your belt, people tend to buy things they hope they will like. So if something happens along the way with that, I don't see why you'd leave anything out.
     
  16. Thoroughbred88

    Thoroughbred88 Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2014 Illinois


    Everything is possible. We are talking statistics now. Statistics need to have a large enough sample to be relevant. At the same time, we can't trust a ratings system where the only ratings that exist are from those that only like it..That's the whole point of what the original poster stated, they only rate if they like it.

    Biases always exist in stats. You are correct.
     
  17. AFchino

    AFchino Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2014 Ohio

    Yes I try to rate everything. If we didn't vote then it seems like people wouldn't drink stuff outside the250...
     
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  18. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    My I suggest that you go back up to my first post (the one you said was "Completely wrong") and carefully read what I wrote. I didn't say I don't rate beers that I expect to like and disappoint me I said I don't buy and rate beers I don't expect to like.
     
  19. Thoroughbred88

    Thoroughbred88 Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2014 Illinois

    Certainly doesn't make it any better.
     
  20. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    The perhaps you'll want to go preach elsewhere? You're going to find a wide diversity of people here, some of whom only rate beers they like. Others who only rate those they don't like, and the full spectrum in between. Including those who don't review or rate at all but are quite happy to evaluate beers in their posts or simply say nothing at all.

    Edit: Any try living in a state where most all the beer you buy is a case at a time rather than a bottle at a time.
     
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