Sixpoint Hi-Res

This has discussed been in numerous previous threads re: Sixpoint's labeling choice, but seeing as you're relatively new (and, at the risk of sounding like a broken record):

The legal requirement in the US is:

So, it is legal to so label their cans done outside of Brooklyn, but, given the numerous times this has come up in BA threads and on other beer sites, one could safely say that Sixpoint's labeling does create "a false or misleading" impression that all their beer is brewed and packaged in Brooklyn.

As for your examples, Boston Beer Co. lists all three of their breweries on their labels, with coding on their bottles and packaging noting the brewing site (A or P= Allentown, PA, B=Boston, C=Cincinnati). Anheuser Busch (along with MillerCoors, Pabst and many other multi-site brewers) similarly code their beers with the actual brewing/packing brewery, as well as openly listing all their breweries on their websites.

Likewise, most "craft" breweries that contract brew, AP, or use their parent company's breweries (i.e., Magic Hat beer brewed at NAB's Genesee brewery in Rochester) will also list the actual brewing city, not the home brewery on their labels.

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I would imagine EVERY brewer with a very hop forward beer wants you to drink it as soon as possible. Weren't you the one who quoted Ken from Sierra Nevada about how the hop flavor and aroma drop dramatically after three days? If so, then why does their FAQ say the beer should last 150 days? To me, most people would interpret that as a "best by"

It seems like you are just on a mission to find fault with sixpoint (which I am sure there are some), but the term best by is pretty widely used by many breweries, is it not?

 

Interesting that Sam Adams lists Boston, as I was told during my brewery tour there that they don't do any of the brewing there, outside of R&D batchs.

 

I've had it on Tap in a bar in Brooklyn just recently, but havent seen it in any stores in RI yet....HELP!

 

As I recall, that's not Grossman's quote, but it was quoting a source using Sierra Nevada's research.

Well, the thread is entitled "Sixpoint Hi-Res" so I'm discussing Sixpoint's labeling and date coding. I think many brewers are using too long a shelf life period for their beers - I think 3 months is more appropriate for "fresh" beers. It's not unheard of - Stone and Ithaca do it. If SN's Grossman comes on the forums, I'd ask him the same thing - and, I imagine, certainly a consideration when deciding to build in NC WAS fresher beer on the east coast.

Boston is both their namesake, and their corporate headquarters- it's only logical to list it, just as AB's labels say "St. Louis", Miller will always list "Milwaukee", Coors "Golden, CO", etc. first - the point is those companies also list their other breweries and code their product with the actual brewing site.

According to BBC's Annual Report:

Oh, and lest I be accused of being a shill and apologist for BBC... I don't think stating facts, whether they present a brewery in what some consider either a positive or negative light, is necessarily partisan.

 

Sorry, it was a different (but still pertinent quote) that you posted along with the research quote as well:

 

absolutely loved this beer. Bonus: for whatever reason it seemed to get me more buzzed than most other beers with the same or even higher abv

 

What exactly are your real concerns? I found some Best By Mar 12th Bengali Tiger and sixpoint is getting fresh packs sent to this store. They can't know and control how their beer is kept in each store and also know if beer is kept or sold after best-by date.
Besides, we can help correct "fresh beer" problems by continuing to not purchase old beer.

As for at which facility was this beer actually made in being on the bottle...why do you care so much? Because they've had some supposed quality control problems at one site? Don't buy their beer or buy it and try it. If it's skunky bring it back or tell sixpoint and they will take care of you.

You sound quite focused to the cause of giving these guys a hard time for no real benefit to the consumer. (at least that I'm seeing)

The thread is titled Sixpoint High-Res and it is a fantastic beer. Go ahead and start a "Beer Packaging & Labeling" thread if you want...because it's 50/50 on if I can read the canned on date of Cigar City's stuff these days...and many other brewers all have the same problems.

 

Jack, I was more specifically referring to craft drinkers, not BMC. We all know many BMC drinkers do indeed drink the same stuff night in, night out, week in, week out.

 

I don't really believe it's financially viable to open and operate a large scale brewery in Brooklyn. Sixpoint and Brooklyn do some of there brewing at their respective spaces in Brooklyn but contracting out the large scale brewing to other places is a unfortunate necessity. Have you seen the price of real estate pretty much anywhere in Brooklyn, it's insane. I have no problem with them contracting out. It's a smart business decision for them.

 

it is possible...but I do believe there are some floating around in NJ

great, can't wait to release it again next year!

Quality over quantity. In the end, quality will produce quantity anyways. :-)

If investing the time to individually speak with all of our concerned customers is pimping, then I am guilty of that.

Yeah. And the Sierra Nevada mountains are in California, not in North Carolina. Hope no one is misled! ;-)

 

Good news, just picked up a fresh box of Bengali Tiger thanks to you. Best By Aug 27th I believe

 

I haven't seen a can in MA in a long time. It went quick, and I only got 1 four pack because I am used to sixpoint being easy to get, and I thought it would last longer. There's always next year...

 

yup. sixpoint is the only brewer I see responding to every question on here. makes me feel good about giving them my money. I doesn't hurt that their beer is delicious either

 

Our new labels do say "Brewed in Chico, CA AND Mills River, NC."

 

Yes, and next year you can come prepared. It would be nice if we could get you the beer within a few days of it being canned. We'll make sure an alert is sent out so everyone knows when it will arrive.

Big up to our ops team on that - I made sure they got you what you needed!

 

There's still places in Nj that have hi-res. Not sure what part of Nj people are saying they never got it but there's plenty of stores in south Jersey that got it. I still have a 4 pack left personally that I just discovered I still had. I will not have it much longer now that I found it but good to know that there's more to be had if need be as well. I don't mind a little hop drop off personally as it's like an entirely new beer.

 

Pretty easy to find in Columbus as well. Our local craft store told me that he got an extra distribution that was originally targeted for NY. He had way more cases than he usually would get.