Bourbon Barrels

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by ChristopherShain, Apr 7, 2014.

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  1. ChristopherShain

    ChristopherShain Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2014 Michigan

    I like many of you find Bourbon Barrel aged beers to be some of the highest quality ones around. Some beg to differ and find them to be more of a trend. However, I am interested and wondering where these barrels come from. Do you have to be a big name brewery to acquire them from whiskey/bourbon distillers? Are there any possibilities in getting a hold of a couple for home brewing? If so, how does pricing work for them?
     
  2. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

  3. raczkowski

    raczkowski Initiate (0) May 16, 2011 Florida
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    My buddy bought one and is creating a bar with his. He got it at a flee market so maybe check there if not craigslist or if you are not far from a distillery just go there and ask if you could purchase one.
     
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    My club has bought a couple. You need to find a broker or other source. One guy in the club bought his own.

    Don't ask the source, as I don't know. I am not fond of bourbon and do not want it in my beer.
     
  5. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    One from a flea market raises flags for me. You want it freshly drained. If it has been setting, chances of infections go way up.
     
  6. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Picking one up at a flea market is fine if youre using it for decoration, but not if youre using it for homebrewing. If a barrel has not been freshly emptied and maintained properly it could leak or be a source of infection.
     
  7. ChristopherShain

    ChristopherShain Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2014 Michigan

    This leads me to the next question. What would happen if you just filled it half way. Would your beer be over powered by the bourbon? Would the ABV go up?
     
  8. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Your beer would become heavily oxidized from the excess headspace and would taste like crap.
     
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  9. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

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  10. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    Barrels are available in sizes from 4L to 1/2 barrel all the way to massive foudres for bulk oak aging wine, it all depends on the source. Local wineries are a great place to get smaller barrels, just as long as they're filed with quality product. An easier solution for homebrew is to soak oak cubes or spirals in a liquor then let them sit in the beer as it conditions, which also saves a lot of time. Balcones is a popular source for smaller whiskey/bourbon barrels, although the spirits aren't top notch.
     
  11. mj81

    mj81 Savant (1,072) Sep 11, 2013 New Jersey
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  12. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Maybe I'm wrong but it doesn't really seem like the contact time would be long enough, you'd basically just be rinsing the bourbon off the outside of the chips, not really getting the oak to infuse into the beer. Doesn't the press knock most of the carbonation out of the beer too?
     
  13. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    That would be bourbon-flavored crap. :wink:
     
  14. mj81

    mj81 Savant (1,072) Sep 11, 2013 New Jersey
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    It will knock the carbonation down so that's why you only use half and then pour the rest into the steeped brew. Will you get the same effect as a true barrel age? No but it imparts enough flavor. Charring the chips helps open them up and impart flavor faster since they'll be warm. Put in fridge for 15-20 mins then blend rest of beer.
     
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  15. raczkowski

    raczkowski Initiate (0) May 16, 2011 Florida
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    I did this yesterday with bcbs...toasted 1 cup of coconut and added two vanilla beans. Let it simmer for about 5 minutes. Drained into Randall junior from
    Dfh. Chilled and added a 2nd bcs. IMO this is as good as proprietors bcbs without the headache of trading for it.
     
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  16. StLeasy

    StLeasy Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2013 Illinois

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    Simple Boilermakers^ are an option, too. I like drinking 2-3oz of the stout first before adding an ounce of rye/bourbon. I also have never have tried with FIS, but Old Rasputin is great with an ounce of the above Bulleit rye. I enjoy adding whiskey to lower ABV stouts, too: Black Butte and Obsidian, Sierra Nevada Stout, and Guinness Draft and Extra Stout. When Guinness Draft 12oz bottles go on sale for $6/6, I almost always grab some for this purpose. The lighter body and flavors help the whiskey shine, but you definitely won't have it confused with a whiskey and (soda) water. :slight_smile:
     
  17. tbaker397

    tbaker397 Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 West Virginia

    A local homebrew club, one guy actually owns a local nanobrewery and he purchased 4 barrels, one of which the home brew club was going to use. Funny story when they went to fill it they had to use 11 different fermenters since the barrel was 53 gallons and all they had were 5 gallon fermenters. Always enjoy that part of using full size barrels.
     
  18. WeaponTheyFear

    WeaponTheyFear Initiate (0) Mar 9, 2008 Connecticut

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  19. jefffalcone

    jefffalcone Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 Massachusetts

    good thing he's using it to make furniture
     
  20. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Or expensive firewood.
     
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