VT Unveiled

Discussion in 'New England' started by dwduncan2, Apr 12, 2014.

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  1. dwduncan2

    dwduncan2 Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2012 Illinois

    VT. For some reason this tiny, sparsely populated state produces beers that outshine those from most of the rest of the world. The 3 best (D)IPAs I've ever had are fairly readily available in this state, yet nearly every attempt I've made at trading for these gems has been a failure. Up until recently I've never understood why.

    Last week as part of my vacation to the NE, I decided too take two days to drive around VT, stocking up on these "still on the shelf whalez". My trip consisted of hitting up the warren store on a Thursday for Lawson's, then heading up to Hill Farmstead, and stopping by a few shops to grab some Heady before coming back home.

    Prior to this trip, I never really understood the geographic / demographic makeup of the state of VT which is what leads to the difficulties in obtaining these beers. As a whole, the state is made up of a beautiful web of winding highways through sparsely populated mountain towns with 30 mph speed limits. This means that getting nearly anywhere in the state for the few people that live there typically takes hours.

    When I went to The Warren Store on Thursday morning I got there at 11 o'clock . Their weekly delivery of Lawson's had arrived around 10 (Double Sunshine this week). My gf and I managed to grab the 2 person limit of 8 bottles. This store is in the middle of nowhere with just a few houses within a 20 minute drive and hardly any other businesses within close proximity. While I was at the store, however I saw probably 10-15 people also get their allotment of DS. The store owner informed me that they got a total of 22 cases that they expected to sell out within a few hours. While there are a few other stores that sell Lawson's in the state, this store is the major seller, and low quantities combined with high demand from (a small set) of locals who tend to buy the beer weekly for their own consumption leads to very little of these brews being available for trade. If you make a trip to VT, I highly recommend you hit up the warren store. The owners are awesome people and the store itself is very interesting and unique.

    After hitting the Warren Store I drove to Hill Farmstead. It took us a couple of hours. Hill farmstead is about 20 minutes off of a paved road down a few dirt roads (with huge ruts in the mud when I made the trip). Hardly anyone at all lives within quick driving distance of the brewery. I went on a Thursday afternoon and stayed for a couple of hours. Only 3-4 other people visited the brewery while I was there. Visiting HF was the most amazing beer experience I've had to date. The brewery is a small warehouse/barn on the top of a mountain with a beautiful view of the countryside in all directions. The taplist while I was there surpassed any other brewery/brewpub I've ever visited. The entire brewery is about the size of my living room and I live in a tiny apartment in Chicago. None of the brews at this brewery are overrated. They are all fantastic. My point with all of this is that even though bottles may sit on the shelf at this brewery for a decent amount of time, for most people to access them, they must drive many hours. This is what leads to their high trade value. If you make a trip to VT, visiting Hill Farmstead should be at the top of your list.

    On my way out of VT I snagged a couple of cases of Heady. I saw Heady at a few places that had been delivered earlier in the week, so it isn't quite as hard to come by as the others. However, getting this beer requires a long drive for all but a small amount of people.

    I just wanted to share my experience to give everyone a little perspective on why these beers tend to trade for such high value and to tell you all that they are worth the hype. If you're planning a beer cation, VT should be near the top of your travel destinations. If you do go there I highly recommend you stay at Windekind Farms. It is beautiful, well run, and affordable.

    Cheers!
     
  2. prdstmnky

    prdstmnky Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2010 Vermont

    Glad you enjoyed your trip!
     
  3. __cesarm__

    __cesarm__ Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2012 Illinois

    I hope you were able to visit Waterbury during your trip. HF, HT and Lawson's on draft is so awesome.
     
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  4. maxcoinage

    maxcoinage Maven (1,256) Apr 6, 2012 Illinois
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    Thanks for the insight (and trading me DS and Heady!) - definitely would love to do something like this, just gotta convince my wife somehow.....
     
  5. dwduncan2

    dwduncan2 Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2012 Illinois

    Since it was such a short trip, sadly I wasn't, but I'm already planning another trip within the next year. This time we'll probably be spending the entire week in VT.
     
  6. dwduncan2

    dwduncan2 Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2012 Illinois

    Windeking Farms is what sold my gf on the trip (that and I'm the breadwinner so she does what I say). Romantic cottages on a secluded farm in the mountains. They have 20 some miles of trails for skiing / hiking / snowshoe hiking. My old lady actually suggested VT become our regular vacation spot. (Disclaimer: my gf actually wears the pants in our relationship).
     
  7. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    Have to add that anyone who travels to Vermont should visit Waterbury and hit up the bars there. Friendly people, great beers on tap and even better food.
     
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  8. Mineo

    Mineo Savant (1,115) Jul 7, 2010 New York

    Thanks for the details! We are heading up to VT sometime this year. Have never had Lawson's, and only had a black ipa from HF. We're looking forward to it. So Thursday mornings at the Warren store is recommended for Lawson's?
     
  9. dwduncan2

    dwduncan2 Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2012 Illinois

    My understanding is that they get their shipment every Thursday. I think it typically comes in a little after 10 and sells out within a few hours. Maybe someone that has visited the store more than once can chime in on this.
     
  10. JGLittle

    JGLittle Pundit (897) Mar 24, 2012 Massachusetts

    Warren Store is usually Thursday mornings, but sometimes at 3pm. You can find out the beers that will be delivered that week on the Lawson's blog from their website. The do a good job keeping everyone in the loop and will let you know if the delivery time is funky for some reason. Also, if you go to Burlington, about an hour North, Beverage Warehouse (in Winooski, next town over) gets their delivery Fridays around noon-1p. Usually a 1 bottle per person limit.

    I lived in VT (Burlington Area) for 5 years and its a wonderful place with great drives, views, restaurants and people. It can be as expensive or affordable as you want to make it.

    There is my plug for VT tourism.
     
  11. duchessedubourg

    duchessedubourg Savant (1,181) Nov 2, 2007 Vermont

    Glad you found Windekind - we are practically neighbors.
     
  12. SadMachine

    SadMachine Grand Pooh-Bah (3,220) Mar 14, 2011 New Jersey
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    If you think that Hill Farmstead is small now you should have seen it just a year ago (actually more like 6 months)! It was less than half the size it was now! It truly is a wonderful experience going there! I hadn't been to the state of VT until last February, and I've now been to HF 7 times and have a trip planned for May =) The best beer in the world and gorgeous countryside makes the hours of driving (usually 13-14 round trip without stops for me) totally worthwhile!
     
  13. tacosandbeer

    tacosandbeer Pooh-Bah (1,760) Sep 24, 2010 British Indian Ocean Territory
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    A little research and a map go a long way.
     
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  14. dwduncan2

    dwduncan2 Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2012 Illinois

    The information is readily available, but I don't think it is common for people to research the location where beers are brewed prior to attempting to trade for them... I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.
     
  15. tacosandbeer

    tacosandbeer Pooh-Bah (1,760) Sep 24, 2010 British Indian Ocean Territory
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    "The information is readily available" yet you "never really understood the geographic / demographic makeup of the state of VT which is what leads to the difficulties in obtaining these beers"?

    That about covers it.
     
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  16. dwduncan2

    dwduncan2 Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2012 Illinois

    Let me rephrase, I'm not sure what value you were trying to add with your reply. The point of my post was to make this "research" you speak of a little easier for BAs.
     
  17. tacosandbeer

    tacosandbeer Pooh-Bah (1,760) Sep 24, 2010 British Indian Ocean Territory
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    Nice write up. Thanks for sharing. VT is a great place to visit. And with some planning, one can get lots of good beer with little effort. Cheers!
     
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  18. TonyVT

    TonyVT Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2012 Vermont

    If you only came home with Lawson's, HF, and Heady's you missed out on many other fine Vermont brews that aren't considered the "Big Three" but are in many ways just as fine.
     
  19. celfan

    celfan Savant (1,060) Jul 4, 2004 Vermont
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    please fill me in on affordable, I'm clearly missing it.
     
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  20. MenardMa

    MenardMa Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2011 Connecticut

    Go in the fall...so damn nice.
     
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