Craft beer drinkers: the natural progression

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  1. BullDoza

    BullDoza Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2014 Texas

    As with many hobbies/obsessions/experiences/things in life, craft beer drinkers work their way through an undefined cycle. A natural progression, I suppose. In my humble opinion, it goes in order as follows.

    1. introduction: Maybe it was your first non BMC beverage. Maybe it was a few to follow that first non BMC beer. Either way, you were intrigued enough, at some point, to go further down that rabbit hole. Maybe it was your good friend, or an acquaintance whom introduced you. Maybe you ordered a craft beer on a whim on your own. Either way, you decided to continue on down that rabbit hole...the road to discovery.

    2. Discovery: the period in which you taste as many new beers as possible. It's a new beer and/or style every time you buy a 6 pack or hit the bar. Slowly but surely, you're starting to figure out what you like.

    3. Overwhelmed, yet studious: you likely started with the popular varieties - stouts, porters, IPA, and the likes. Nonetheless, you continue to branch out - saisons, pale ales, sours, farmhouse ales, the list goes on. You realize you've got so much to learn. You begin to actually read/study up on 'beer.' Slowly, you're beginning to build a robust knowledge of all things beer.

    4. "I got this" stage. AKA...I need to start trading: you know your beer well enough that youre confident in what you send, and you know what you're looking for. You know what to ask for. You've heard of all the hard to find beers...you need them. This stage may also include the obsessive need to seek out all trades possible. You're engulfed, and frequent trades are necessary in order to fill that appetite.

    5. Well "traveled." AKA the cellar is created: Wow, all theses trades and I've accumulated a lot of beer, and a lot of good beer. You've read about cellaring and/or heard others discuss their cellars. You need to catch up, damn it. The cellar is created. Your ammo for trades is being built.

    6. Distinguished craft beer drinker: you've done it all. You've enjoyed the big name beers, your friends view you as the one authority regarding all things craft beer, and youre over the thrill of chasing and trading. Hell, your cellar has everything you could ever want and more. Now is your time to relax. You've earned it. Sure, you'll still trade with folks to help them get their hands on a coveted beer...but all you really need in return are some local beers you haven't heard of. You've experienced the big dogs, now let's sample some good, lesser known stuff.

    Sorry for the long post. Just buzzed and bored with the gf passed out for the night :wink:.

    Anyway, I'm at the backend of stage 4. Enjoy trades, and am working towards starting my cellar. Where are the rest of you BAs? Any stages to be added?
     
  2. gmendez1122

    gmendez1122 Pundit (761) Feb 7, 2013 Illinois

    have you been standing outside my window for the past 4 years?
     
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  3. kansascobleigh

    kansascobleigh Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2013 Wisconsin

    I think I am at 3.5 but I do already have a cellar... 3.5 should be you contemplate cicerone or bjcp. sensory kits are seached for... you look for ways to expand and develop your palate.
     
  4. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
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    I would say that I agree with most of it. Obviously, the order of the stages won't necessarily be the same for everyone and people will approach it differently. Personally, I haven't really hit the trading stage due to monetary constraints and the fact that I haven't needed to thanks to some great friends in a local bottleshare group.

    Generally, I think the cellar generally comes before the trading or is at least concurrent with it (albeit the cellar doesn't have to be that big for it to count). I would say that I'm at stage 4 (or at least I would say that title applies to me). I've only done 1 shipped trade and a few IP trades though. My cellar is at about 50+ bottles, but some of those are for long-term storage. I am lucky that I know some generous people and live near one of the best bars in the United States (Max's Taphouse).

    I agree with @kansascobleigh, there is some interest in Cicerone and BJCP (whether or not you go through with it). My big thing is that I really want to start reading up on beer and what not. I'm a fast learner though and quite interested in blind tastings though. I've only done a Sam Adams one during ACBW at Max's and I did the best amongst some much more experienced craft drinkers. They had messed up the pours but the questions were crazy specific.
     
  5. Redneckwine

    Redneckwine Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 Washington

    I've been heavily in to craft beer for only 6 or 7 months now, and I'm probably somewhere in the 3+ area on your scale. I do quite a lot of ticking still, but I definitely know what I like and I also have plenty of go-to's.

    Thing is, at this point I just don't see myself bothering with trades or cellars. Maybe I won't ascend to that level of BA nirvana, but I'm ok with that. I don't give a damn about whales and hype. I just want a fridge stocked with a few sixers of something tasty, and that's perfect to me.
     
  6. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    If extensive cellaring/ticking/hoarding/trading are prerequisites to becoming a fully fledged "craft" drinker, then I'd say the list is accurate.

    I've done only one trade, and my "cellar" rarely grows beyond about 5-6 beers with a max aging of around a month. But I wouldn't describe myself as overwhelmed, and I'd say the second half of the last sentence in part 6 definitely applies (though someone please kick me in the nuts if I ever describe myself as distinguished).

    I'm more of a good beer drinker, and the natural progression is a little different on that path.
     
  7. readyski

    readyski Pooh-Bah (1,557) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    You're right in that all these roads lead to cellaring or trading but not sure they can be numbered as such
    Just relax and take comfort that it's all good, we have your bAck and life will go on
     
  8. BullDoza

    BullDoza Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2014 Texas

    Agree that distinguished certainly sounds snobbish. Just wanted to establish that, at this stage, you're an accomplished and we'll rounded beer drinker. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Also, it makes complete sense that one may be a knowledgable drinker without cellaring and trading. Individuals differ, and as such it's to be expected that the ways in which we enjoy beer do also!
     
  9. VitisVinifera

    VitisVinifera Pundit (879) Feb 25, 2013 California

    OP, I'm on board. A very similar path is followed amongst wine lovers. For me, on the beer path, I was on board in the beginning of the previous cycle, led by Boulder Beer in the 90's. Back then, Boulder was ahead of New Belgium, and the selection was much more limited so the rate of seeking new craft beer was slower, but still.........
     
  10. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Just two steps for me:

    1. Drink cask Mild.
    2. Drink St. Berndus Abt.
     
  11. Flibber

    Flibber Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 England

    I don't really have any desire to trade or cellar. I'd like to travel to some more great beer producing regions and drink lots of the local stuff, maybe visit a few breweries and generally enjoy the area, so I guess that would be the progression I have in mind.
     
  12. WhatANicePub

    WhatANicePub Zealot (712) Jul 1, 2009 Scotland

    1. Drink beer
    2. Drink the good ones again
    3. Don't drink the shit ones again
    4. Go to step 1
     
  13. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    In my case, began by drinking what was available (which was pretty good anyway), when greater choice became available tried everything I could and then went back to the beers I began with.
     
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  14. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    7. "As you can tell from my cellar, I really love beer. But even though I limit myself to one or two a night with two nights off each week, I've still gained thirty pounds this year. Halp!"
     
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  15. NHhomebrewguy

    NHhomebrewguy Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2012 New Hampshire

    I don't know if this is progression or not but what about homebrewing? If you really want to know more about beer you have to experience it first hand. Whether it's from buying a Mr. Beer kit, going all in and all-graining or just gong over to a buddies house while he brews and you guys share a couple pints while he talks about the process and ingredients. The OP talks about reading books and learning everything you can about beer. Well, try the practical side and get your hands dirty while at the same time truly understanding beer.
    Before I started homebrewing I liked craft beer but not the heavy hitters or odd styles. However, after brewing for a while I got board with the same old styles - stouts, IPA's, fruit beers, so I began to venture out and try new styles to see if I'd like them. Now instead of drinking craft beers like Sam Adams and Magic Hat I started drinking DFH and Stone. Now over 4 years later I drink beers from The Alchemist, Hill Farmstead and Lawson's. I would have never dreamed of drinking any of these beers 4 years ago. If I was offered one I would have drank it but wouldn't have been able to appreciate it fully. I think homebrewing has a lot to do with my venturing out and trying new beers and new styles. If it weren't for homebrewing I think Sam Adams winter variety pack would be my most anticipated beers for the year. Now how sad would that be when there's so many other great beer out there? Cheers gang!
     
  16. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    Agree with most except perhaps the "cellar." If two racks of big beers in the door of a beer fridge is a cellar--ok. As I completed the cycle, I found it completely possible to let the sours go by-by and the "cellar" becomes perhaps 20-30 big beers like an 8 year Bigfoot vertical, a few BA stouts, some Avery Beast/Samuels etc. I have great connections so east and west coast rarities show up but never trade in any formal sense. I love to try new stuff when out but go back to a few standbys at home.

    I joined late but wish many years ago, I had reviewed more.
     
  17. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    I've been drinking craft beer since the early/mid 1980's. Still at step 3.
     
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  18. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    You forgot 3A:
    No longer content with just lurking on BeerAdvocate, you now post on it every day all day.
     
  19. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    The problem is not all of us are as young as you are. Many of predate "craft". Not that I mind your experiences and journey but your experiences are not typical of us all.

    drank swill or tried to, gave up
    drank anything BUT beer for years
    joined Navy road the waves, hit a few ports in the UK, discovered real ale.
    came back home and still not many places had good beer and certainly none where I was stationed until about 1980 or so. So drank imports.
    Good beer in America starts spreading. naturally if I could get it I drank it.
    Still many places in 1980-96 were beer desserts.
    in between all that I got to revisit ports in UK, France, and so traveled to Belgium and Germany.
    modern days of craft, well its everywhere. Not saying its all worth it but its out here.

    cheers and Prost.
     
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  20. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    At almost 50, I have found after the ride with bigger and bigger that I now get equally if not greater satisfaction with well made lower alcohol offerings. Cask ale is just not to be found much in NC.:slight_frown:

    Still enjoy a big one here and there but not the staple it once was. An exceptional pilsner, anyone?
     
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