How to handle a possible bad trader?

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  1. xxdcmast

    xxdcmast Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    I am not too familiar with the etiquette on this board so I figured I would ask. What is the recommended method for dealing with a possible bad trader? I know the rules state that I am responsible for any beer trading but is there a method to let others know of a bad trader?

    Basically the situation i am in right now is the person I traded with was very responsive to BMs prior to the trade and completely disappeared as soon as I sent the tracking number for the package.Since then the package has been delivered and I have BMd to check if everything came through ok with no response. I can see by their status that they are online and still viewing the forums but ignoring my messages. The strange thing is I have traded with this person once before in the past with no issues and they have very good feedback. This current trade was about $160-170 (12 bottles)

    It has been about two days since the package arrived and a week since Ive had BM contact with this person so just figured i would see what else BA recommends. I'm not going to post any name yet as I am hoping for a good solution to this but just seeing what everyone recommends if not.

    Thanks
     
    #1 xxdcmast, May 1, 2014
  2. Beeryurt

    Beeryurt Zealot (617) Mar 8, 2013 Wisconsin
    Trader

    its been over a week with no reply, post their BA name asking what is going on. There is no reason a person can be on BA and not replay on where the beer they owe you is. If that does not do it then leave them a bad trade review.
     
    #2 Beeryurt, May 1, 2014
  3. xxdcmast

    xxdcmast Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    I'm going to hold off on the name and shame for a few more days. He has 100% positive feedback so I don't want to ruin that over a misunderstanding. But if I don't hear back I will be releasing his name here and on other sites where he hangs out.
     
    #3 xxdcmast, May 1, 2014
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  4. xxdcmast

    xxdcmast Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    If it does come down to posting his name do post it here or in the ISO FT forum or both?
     
    #4 xxdcmast, May 1, 2014
  5. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Society Trader

    post it here here on this thread.

    plus, you should tag him so he gets a notification that this thread exists.
     
    #5 F2brewers, May 1, 2014
  6. xxdcmast

    xxdcmast Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    How would I tag him?
     
    #6 xxdcmast, May 1, 2014
  7. Jshari223

    Jshari223 Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2013 Georgia

    Put the @ in front of his user name @xxdcmast.
     
    #7 Jshari223, May 1, 2014
  8. xxdcmast

    xxdcmast Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    @Dontcounttoday I've sent you messages over the past week. I would appreciate a response letting me know if my shipment arrived safe and what/when I can expect my shipment. Thanks.
     
    #8 xxdcmast, May 1, 2014
  9. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    FWIW almost ALL of his 36 positive trades are from a long time ago - they're just new comments once the feedback system was implemented late last year. Hope the dude comes clean for you. Thanks for bringing this to the community's attention and let's all just hope for a positive outcome with what looks to be an okay trader & BA.
     
    #9 markgugs, May 1, 2014
  10. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Society Trader

    FTFY. lol. mods gotta mod.

    to me at least, far more interesting (and perhaps concerning?) are his six (6) pending and thirteen (13) open trades. :grimacing:

    personally, i think two days is a bit too soon to call someone out, but what's done is done. if you end up short OP, BM me. i'll see if i can help make it right (gotta support my MA guys, right?).

    this thread will stay up (if possible) as a reference point for all.
     
    #10 F2brewers, May 1, 2014
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  11. xxdcmast

    xxdcmast Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    Like I said I've traded with him in the past and it came through well. So I'm hoping for a positive resolution.
     
    #11 xxdcmast, May 1, 2014
  12. TheBeerDrinker

    TheBeerDrinker Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2014 Minnesota

    Yah unfortunately all those open or pending trades don't look good. He hasn't posted an ISO for quite a while so it looks like all those possible trades are trades he has answered. Hope things work out. What bottles did you send him?
     
    #12 TheBeerDrinker, May 1, 2014
  13. xxdcmast

    xxdcmast Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    I sent him a pretty good selection of nightshift bottles. 6 ever Weiss - 3 new bottles and 3 bottles from separate batches last year kind of a mini vertical. Then I also added 6 other bottles of their art and barrel society bottles.

    Nothing super rare but as I said around 160-170 worth of beer. I guess if your gonna scam go big.
     
    #13 xxdcmast, May 1, 2014
  14. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    I hope he settles up with you...I mean he contributes here in conversations so its not like he is someone who "hides".....Man up @Dontcounttoday and give the man a response..
     
    #14 tommyz, May 1, 2014
  15. xxdcmast

    xxdcmast Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    Yea that's one of the good things with BA is that over the past week as I've been sending him messages I've seen his last online times changing so I know he was active and seeing them.

    If there is a legit reason for the delay in a trade just let me know and I'll be fine but no contact leads to suspicion.
     
    #15 xxdcmast, May 1, 2014
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  16. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

    what was he going to send you?
     
    #16 blue-dream, May 1, 2014
  17. xxdcmast

    xxdcmast Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    The trade was pretty open ended on his part. The two major bottles were a 13 and 14 DL and the rest was just going to be chicago/midwest stuff. To me the nightshift beer is a local so i usually trade them $4$ for other quality locals which in his area would probably have been FFF/pipeworks/etc.
     
    #17 xxdcmast, May 1, 2014
  18. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    Officially a "bad trader" or not, he's a very bad communicator, which I find equally problematic.

    Rule #1 for me is to get a cell phone #. If a person won't give me theirs, we're not moving forward.

    Hope it all works out for ya, OP.
     
    #18 kmello69, May 1, 2014
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  19. xxdcmast

    xxdcmast Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    Just got a PM from him apologizing for the lack of communication over the past few days. Says the package should be going out in the next few days. Will keep everyone updated.
     
    #19 xxdcmast, May 1, 2014
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  20. lookrider

    lookrider Savant (1,208) Apr 22, 2007 Pennsylvania
    Trader

    Sometimes you have to take action here to get a response. Even though it was a fairly short time in which to call him out, he brought it on himself through his own rudeness in having received a box from you, reading your messages, and not giving you the courtesy of a reply or a thank you. Had you not tagged him and brought this out, who knows how long it may have gone before you heard from him.
     
    #20 lookrider, May 1, 2014
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