How to handle a possible bad trader?

I wish I could like this post multiple times.

I won't trade with bad communicators, drives me nuts.

 

Holy shit man! I gotta say I am super surprised by this post. I have traded with @xxdcmast on 2 previous occasions. I have over 100 trades and never sent a box that didnt make it 100% in tact to its destination and definitely never failed to send completely.

XXdc your box arrived on my doorstep Tuesday. You messaged me 3 times since then and I'm sorry I was very busy this week. Some of the bottles being sent are Dark Lords which I only acquired this weekend, and I told you my tasting group had to gather some bottles for you.

Seriously, I expect this kind of thing if there is a communication failure for over a week or something, but its been less than 2 days since your box got here. I woke up this morning to find you reported me to mods on /r/tradebeer and made this post. Its insulting, especially considering we have a trade history.

 

I agree with almost all you say, OP was pretty quick on the trigger with a partner, but really?

Your day is that crammed busy, completely empty of the 20 seconds free time it would take? You just actually can't find those seconds to let partner know the box arrived safely, all intact, and to say thank you? Really? So, it's none of my business, but... really?

Perhaps you can temper your feeling of insult with this point of view?

 

For the record, my last response to XXdc via BMs here on BA, was on April 23rd, giving him my address. He next responded with a tracking number on this past Friday, before DLD. He then sent 2 more messages. 1 on Monday of this week telling me to expect the package on Tuesday, and then again on Tuesday to tell me the package was marked as delivered. I didnt get the package in my hands until Wednesday and I meant to reply (that was yesterday) but life was keeping me busy and I didnt get to it. I replied first thing this morning, after I found all this.

Jesus Christ you guys really like to jump to ridiculous conclusions. Look at those pending and open trades. They are mostly from a bunch of guys Ive traded with a long time ago (though some are recent) but havent used the BA trading tool at all OR they may just not recall trades from years ago. I keep a spreadsheet of all my trades so I just filled it all out at once when the site added the feature. I didnt message them to ask them to accept the trade or whatever, and if they don't recall it thats fine.

My trade history is more accurately kept here. Anyone is free to contact any of those people to verify my trades themselves. Yes I have slowed down on trading with new people in the past now that I have a pretty good network, I'm sorry if that signifies I'm not a great trader or something.



I am pissed off that I even have to justify this situation that is not accurately represented by the OP.

 

He has my email and cell phone number. Did not use those.

 

Hmm...tough one to analyze. I think trading partners should provide each other with the date they plan to ship. I'm not really a fan of sending beer too far in advance of receiving beer. Or, vice versa.

Given they had traded before, and that trade must have gone smoothly, I think I probably would have given Dontcounttoday the benefit of the doubt. You do have to consider that XXdc could tell that DCT was being active on BA, but still not acknowledging the BMs.

 

That is what most people have a problem with! Shit happens, people get busy, etc...no one expects things to always be perfect. But communication is essential in such situations. Honestly, i dont care how good someones trade history is....iF you have the time to come on BA and read a message, you have 30 seconds to respond to it, and I wont trade with anyone who feels thats ok.

 

well i have done trades for hundreds worth of beer and shipped out months later, of corse my good trading buddy @zookerman182 was relayed that info. Maybe @Dontcounttoday read the msgs and couldn't reply because its a bitch to type on a phone. I would have given him at least a week with no reply before reporting him. But as others have said always get phone numbers, dosen't take more than a min to call someone. And remember even tho it might be hundreds in beer it is still only beer.... Now i need a beer, and maybe a shot.

 

This...If you have a trade open and your partner messages you and you read it, you do have the 20 seconds to type a message and answer it..that is fact...

With that said, im glad its being handled and was just miscommunication on communication

 

Interesting. OP why would you post something here about him potentially being a bad trader without having first tried to contact him via means other than BMs? If you had his cell and email, why not try those first.

Seems like things were a little off on both ends, although now I'm leaning more towards OP jumping the gun on this one, because of some slightly off communication.

 

I think everyone should just cool their jets... sounds like both people will be getting their boxes here.. and that this was just a huge communication error... Both traders here are probably slightly at fault... but just let this one go guys.. I think all will be well in the end. Just go home tonight and have a beer!

 

I think the OP was a bit eager on calling out @Dontcounttoday given it has only been two days since the box landed and the fact he has both his email a cell phone, definitely use those first before creating a bad trader thread. Just curious if OP knew that you would be shipping later because you had to acquire said bottles for the trade?

Generally I like to agree when each party is going to ship up front to avoid any confusion and keep expectations in check. I do appreciate a trader informing me that the box the box arrived intact within 24hours after it has been delivered, or at least an update. However, I wouldn't consider them to be a bad trader if they did not, especially if I had traded with them before and everything was fine.

Agree with @Kramerbarthomer, have a beer and move on.

 

I was going to reply to this thread this morning, but didn't. But now I see the situation has evolved. OP was way too quick on the trigger finger to call someone a possible bad trader based on these circumstances.

 

@F2brewers Probably time to lock this one up!

 

Close...but I'd prefer to wait until the OP receives his box and publicly acknowledges that things are square between him and his trade partner.

 

Got ya. I hope this all works out. We've been seeing/hearing about way too many bad trader concerns. Thanks for modding like a boss. Cheers!

 

I personally dont look at either of you as bad...Just bad communication on BOTH parts really...But glad it worked out on both ends and a nice learning experience for both imo...Cheers

 

Sorry to bring this up in a thread about someone else, but I've got the same problem. Shipped some beers over from the UK to US and the recipient informed me that the parcel arrived safely. As I'm new on here I agreed to ship first.

Unfortunately he's now gone quiet on me but is still active on the site. Last reply was the start of April. @ChrisMetcalfe What's happening?

He has an open trade with someone else and 100% feedback (8/8). Any advice or can I completely say goodbye to these beers.

Cheers for your advice

 

Id recommend starting up a brand new thread specific to this trade. Looks like he hasn't been on BA since April 21 though. Not a great sign...but I hope it all
Works out.