Sour beers: Just a fad?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Cmack15, May 9, 2014.

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  1. Cmack15

    Cmack15 Pundit (827) Sep 7, 2008 Massachusetts

    I was at a local liquor store and the beer manager offered his opinion of sour beers being just a fad, while we discussed craft beer. I was rather surprised he felt this way, furthermore I wholeheartedly disagree with his viewpoint. I was curious to bounce this off the forum crowd to see what peoples' thought on this topic resolved to. I think sours are amazing beers and will continue to grow, mature, and develop as not only great beers but some of the greatest beers ever made. Naming the recent surge of sour beer popularity as a fad is short sighted and disappointing. I do not subscribe to a one for all and one for all opinion of anything craft beer related, but I feel educated and experienced peoples' estimation with craft beer carry more weight. Having said all that I look forward to hearing any and all feedback.
    Cheers
     
  2. kdb150

    kdb150 Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I think it's a fad in the sense that there are very few American breweries actually making good sours, and eventually, people's palates will catch on, and many of those currently on the market will go the way of the dodo. Well-made sours, on the other hand, are certainly not a fad.
     
  3. spicoli00

    spicoli00 Pooh-Bah (2,305) Jul 6, 2005 Indiana
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    No

    So many of the newer breweries taling about starting sour programs. The issues is being able to have two facilities, one for "regular" beers and one for sours.
     
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  4. HopsintheSack

    HopsintheSack Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2012 California

    I for one hope for the amount of breweries making sours grows. I love the style, but most sours that are worth having are hard to get and cost alot compared to other styles.
     
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  5. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Why do you need two facilities?
     
  6. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Saying wild ales are a fad is very misguided I think. Better yet, saying any style of beer is a fad is misguided. They are all representations of classic styles, or new styles molded from classic styles. Wild ales come from the Belgium tradition, have been brewed for centuries and will continue to be brewed for centuries long after we are gone. Is the resurgence of this style new and exciting? Yes. Does that mean it is a fad that will fade away after it's 15 minutes of fame? Hell no. Beer has been fermented, whether on purpose or accident, with Brettanomyces, Lactobacillus, Pediococcus for thousands of years... this is nothing new.
     
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  7. kingston2

    kingston2 Savant (1,049) Sep 14, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Pretty sure there is concern of cross contamination so separate facilities takes this risk out of the picture.
     
  8. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa

    A fairly recent fad here in the US, perhaps. But sours have been alive and well in Europe for hundreds and hundreds of years.
     
  9. spicoli00

    spicoli00 Pooh-Bah (2,305) Jul 6, 2005 Indiana
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    don't want to infect the regular beer with the wild yeast
     
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  10. AaronDrinks

    AaronDrinks Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2013 Florida

    The full answer to this is quite complex, but it boils down to making sure the bugs don't come into contact with other styles that aren't meant to be infected.
     
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  11. Iamjeff6

    Iamjeff6 Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2013 Virginia

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    Hmm being arond for 114 years..is that still considered a fad?
     
  12. Can-In-Hand

    Can-In-Hand Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2013 New Jersey

    Well they have been making sour beer in Belgium and Germany for hundreds of years so if it is a fad this is the longest fad in the history of the world.
     
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  13. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I don't think so. Mainly because it has been more of a slow upswell that has grown steadily for the last 5-6 years. They've long been beloved by geeks and brewers, but I think the recent explosion actually relates to pricing. Back when Cantillon was fairly common, it languished on many shelves because it was $15-30 per bottle. Now it flies off of shelves at that price. Now that beers priced over $15 are no longer that unusual, more brewers are likely to take a chance and make one.
     
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  14. APBT91

    APBT91 Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2013 North Carolina

    I don't generally care for sours yet but I have had some I thought were very good that I would definitely buy again. So I don't think they are a fad, especially as mentioned above the number of breweries that have already started or will start a sour program. They wouldn't do that if it was a fad IMO.
     
  15. GreesyFizeek

    GreesyFizeek Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Mar 6, 2013 New York
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    I think the guy probably just doesn't like sours and is biased in his opinions about them.
     
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  16. Guzzle_McBrew

    Guzzle_McBrew Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2014 Connecticut

    Beers are stupid. On to the next!
     
  17. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    Saying "sour beers" are a fad is sort of akin to saying "dark beers" are a fad. Plus there is historical context that suggests that some of the oldest instances of beer (grain fermented beverage) were, in fact, sour. So really, it's not a fad so much as a re-awakening.

    For example, here's an article about a collaboration between Great Lakes and some archaeologists from University of Chicago trying to authentically re-create a 5,500 year old beer from Mesopotamia:

    http://io9.com/recreation-of-ancient-beer-suggests-it-was-sour-and-ful-572664886

    From the article:

    "The batch, spiced with cardamom and coriander, fermented for two days, but it was ultimately too sour for the modern tongue, [Nate] Gibbon said. Next time, he will sweeten it with honey or dates.


    Without sophisticated cleaning systems to rid the vessels of natural bacteria, Mesopotamian imbibers might have been more familiar with the brew’s unwanted vinegar flavor, archaeologists said. Yet even with the most educated guesswork, they said, the Sumerian palate might never be fully uncovered.“We’re working with questions that are not going to have a final answer,” Mr. Paulette said. “It’s just back and forth, trying to move toward a better understanding. We’re pretty comfortable with that.”
     
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  18. duchessedubourg

    duchessedubourg Savant (1,181) Nov 2, 2007 Vermont

    Decidedly not a fad - more like a renaissance of a variety of styles/processes that have a notable history - at least in Europe. I've been a fan well-before people fought over Cantillon on the shelves, and am delighted to see Berliner weiss, gose and similiar styles enjoy newfound attention. Am enjoying many of the domestic versions as well.
     
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  19. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I agree sour beers are just a fad. The fad started 12,000 years ago, I bet it doesn't make it another 12,000.
     
  20. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Thanks for the responses. That's what my gut said, but I guess I just didn't think that bacteria was such a pain in the ass to deal with. Ha.
     
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