Berliner time.. Bring me your best.

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  1. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    When you open next time, purge with c02 if you keg, or get some seltzer water and pour in there and then put the seran wrap over the grain bed.
     
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  2. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    Pour it in the wort? Or on top of the plastic wrap? I'm assuming you mean in the wort so the CO2 from the seltzer water will push out any oxygen.
     
  3. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    Yeah mine have both taken a bit longer to start than usual, around 24 hours and starts pretty slow. WB-06 was faster than US-05 though for whatever reason.
     
  4. Theortiz01

    Theortiz01 Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2013 Texas

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    Here's what I'm working with. Gonna take a pH and gravity reading tomorrow and go from there. Still can't get the dead hooker smell out of my mind. Not that I know what that would smell like...
     
  5. josmickam

    josmickam Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2013 Georgia

    I've read through every page, and like several other people - it's inspired me to make a berliner weisse. If I'm going to sour the wort instead of doing a sour mash, would I need dedicated equipment? If I'm understanding correctly, doing a sour mash won't require dedicated (soured) equipment because what ever is getting mashed in the future will still be going into the boil.
     
  6. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    No, you won't need dedicated equipment, unless you plan to not boil it, at which you'll need to have a bucket/carboy you want to use for funky/sour beers and siphons and airlocks and the like.

    Sour the wort in whatever you'd like, I used a carboy, dedicated it to "funky" and soured in there. Cleaned it with hot PBW, and then starsan and put the beer back into it after I boiled it. That way I don't have any funk moving through my normal stuff, like my kegs and lines.
     
  7. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I think the beauty of this process is the souring is done preboil , therefore you can go crazy with IBUs and it won't inhibit the lacto. I think on my second effort I'm throwing a handful of tropical hops in there.
     
  8. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Be warned. Bitter+sour=not all that awesome as it sounds on paper.
     
  9. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    When done right it is orgasmic. Nightshift did a blend of their Berliner and IPA at extreme beer fest and in a sea of unreal beers it was my favorite of the night.
     
  10. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Fair enough. It's worth a shot to marry the best of both worlds.
     
  11. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Speaking of which..

    Here's a little shot of what I enjoyed while cleaning out my BGE, and getting it fired up for some dinner tonight.

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    Raspberry Berliner.. It was... tart to say the least. Hard to tell, but the head was a really pretty pink. Pink enough I was worried my neighbors would see.
     
  12. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    I was talking on another forum about sour mash, and a thought popped in my head....Is it dangerous to be tasting the sour mash? I mean, it's not boiled, and my setup gradually lets the temperature go from 120F to 80F over time, yet I am tasting this sweet wort which I purposely infect with lacto.

    Now, I do sanitize everything that comes into contact with it though, I am extremely anal about this mostly because I don't want a vomity sour mash, so I think that probably helps inhibit any unwanted bacteria, but looking up Clostridum had me question if I could get sick from tasting my sour mash.
     
  13. josmickam

    josmickam Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2013 Georgia

    I looked through pages 1-7 again, because I picked up my Wheat/Pilsner/Acid Malt yesterday, along with some US05 and Tettnang hops. I got two 2-liters of Seltzer water, when I'm adding it to the sour mash, should it be heated to help maintain the 100+ degree temperature? Will heating the carbonated water make it lose carbonation? Or should I just not worry about keeping the sour mash at over 100 degrees for a few days, and let it drop to room temperature?
     
  14. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Letting it drop over the course of a few days won't hurt. The elevated temps are only to expedite the process.
     
  15. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I let the temp fall to room temp, so I didn't bother heating/cooling any of the bottled water. Heat will speed up the process if you keep the wort/mash warm or hot..
     
  16. josmickam

    josmickam Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2013 Georgia

    Sweet! Thanks! I'll probably be doing my sour mash today or tomorrow.
     
  17. solo103

    solo103 Initiate (0) Apr 8, 2012 Florida

    Ok guys me and my buddy just tried our first berliner
    3.75lb German Pilsner
    3.75lb Pale Wheat
    .5lb Rice hulls
    Pre boil vol 5.25g - Pre boil gravity 1.036
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    Going to cool to 80 and pitch this
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    We decided to try this instead of grain for the lacto just to see how it goes.
    We're going to check the ph and taste for sourness over the next week and when its ready the Boil for 15min and add .5oz of Hallertau hops (10min addition) then finish it off with wlp001 California ale yeast. Ill post some picks and give details along the way. Cheers
     
  18. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Report back on how long it takes with the culture. Some people say the WLP stuff is a bit better off than the Wyeast culture in terms of actually getting it sour in a relatively quick amount of time.
     
  19. daves1186

    daves1186 Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Hey guys. So Sunday I started my berliner everything seemed to go great I ended up with 6 gallons of 1.047 wort and proceeded to sour the wort at 109 degrees. It's been about 72 hours and I just checked the ph and it's at 3.3 and tastes pretty damn good so I'm going to go ahead and boil it now. I read earlier that some of you when souring had a drop in gravity so I shot a little higher than I wanted the finished beer to be to compensate for that but I ended up having no drop in gravity. I'm going to add a gallon and a half of water to drop the gravity to around 1.038, so here's my question how much yeast do you think I should pitch? I have 2 packs of us05.
    Cheers.

    Here she is souring in my grow room.
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    And here's a pic. of top of the fermenter. No pellicle, yeast,mold or unknown growths.
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  20. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I think you'd be fine with 1 packet hydrated. Don't expect it to take right off with that low of a pH, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did anyways.
     
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