Standard Cantillon?

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  1. daleyke

    daleyke Crusader (472) Aug 15, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Can anyone provide me with some insight on the trade value of your standard Cantillon's? Stuff like: Iris, 100% Kriek, St. Lamvinus, Lou Pepe Kriek, etc..? Thanks.
     
  2. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    It fluctuates a bit with seasonality and release timing, but you're roughly looking at something like this, largely based around bottle counts:

    Tier 1: Classic Gueuze, Kriek, Rose
    Tier 2: Bruocsella, Iris, Vigneronne
    Tier 3: LP Kriek/Framboise, Lamvinus, Mamouche, CdC
    Tier 4: LP Gueuze, Fou Foune

    Again, it fluctuates a bit, and everybody values a bit differently. I don't much care for Bruocsella. Iris was tougher to land for a while, but they've put out a bunch recently. Lamvinus probably has more pull than anything else in Tier 3, but it won't likely trade for a Fou Foune or LP Gueuze.

    It's really hard to say what it takes to land any of those, because it is literally all over the place. Tier 1 is very good shelf stuff probably limited distro releases, Tier 2 requires at least limited distributed stuff (like a BCBS variant), by Tier 3 you're into very limited releases (Lamvinus can likely land Black Tuesday these days), and Tier 4 can get a bottle of just about anything released in the past year. But again, I'm sure Classic Gueuze has gone for stuff like Dark Lord plenty of times, so it's really all over the place.
     
  3. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

     
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  4. LetsGoExploring

    LetsGoExploring Pooh-Bah (1,550) Apr 25, 2006 Connecticut
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    Nice synopsis. I attempted to trade some Tier 2 and 3 for vintage Classic but limited myself to IP only. Good to know for future offers.
     
  5. vacax

    vacax Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2008 California

    I'd put CSG on tier four
     
  6. Soonami

    Soonami Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    This is how I would rank them. In terms of "normal" Cantillon, I think Fou Foune is on it's own level and LP Gueuze is just a level below. Although CDC and CSG are essentially the same beer, the CDC labeled beer is far less common.
    Tier 1: Classic Gueuze, Kriek, Rose, Bruocsella
    Tier 2: Iris, Vigneronne
    Tier 3: LP Kriek/Framboise, Cuvee St. Gilloise, Lamvinus
    Tier 4: Mamouche, Cuvee des Champion, LP Gueuze
    Tier 5: Fou Foune
     
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  7. daleyke

    daleyke Crusader (472) Aug 15, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Thank you gentleman. I appreciate your feed back.
     
  8. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    I would have agreed with you on FF a year ago, but they've pumped out a lot of it in the last year. People seem to finally be over the "FF will never be made again" scare, and it seems to have come down to earth a bit in trade ISO's. LP Gueuze is more limited at the moment, and while it doesn't quite have the hype of FF, it's still pretty desirable.
     
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